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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #59 from previous page: December 28, 2006, 11:28:33 AM »
Back in the days of The big magazines...

I used to buy most of em ...

Amiga User International

Amiga Shopper

Cu Amiga

AmigaPro

Amiga Computing

At nigh on £5 a magazine it wasn't cheap but as I had no internet there was little other option.

I would glean little snippets of information from each different magazine. Not one of them had the monopoly on info.



Same with the Amiga Websites.

Fortunately it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg anymore to get that info. I have met (online) many colourful characters and I can even agree with many of their views.

It's the delivery that sucks. Thats where the moderation should step in.

As Tomazkid rightly pointed out..

Being called a Red Ankle grabber may well be acceptable in the writers country and can even be deemed funny these forums oft get read by minors.


I enjoy all the sites

But when I go on MooBunny I make sure my rugrats aint perving over my shoulder !!

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« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2006, 11:34:22 AM »
Damn, ajk beat me to it. But yeah...

I seem to recall someone posting some IRC log a while back, and even though the content was just light-hearted humour (unlike this unfortunate selection) some of the people quoted didn't appreciate it (...ok, it might just have been me.)

What is said in the channel is for the people present at the time. If you want a piece of the action you have to be there. This being one of it's appeals.
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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2006, 01:00:29 PM »
hahaha.

its ok!

I was just messing about  :lol:

But now this is no laughing matter as posted IRC logs on A.org is rude Piru.

Please dont do that in future.

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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2006, 01:55:19 PM »
I'm member off both sites but see my self visiting Amiga.org more often. There are a few reasons for that. The most important being that I do not own, or have acces to, AmigaOS4 enabled hardware. Therfore its near impossible to have a clear and well fundamented opinion on the discussions over there. Overhere it's mostly Classic Amiga, which I like.

Also my feeling is that at AmigaWorld there's a small number of Amiga owners spoiling the fun 'cause they seem to be negative 24/7 about everything released for the Amiga. But then, it won't stop me from visiting AW.
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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2006, 02:03:53 PM »
Why on earth should Piru need promission to post something he saw in a public IRC channel?

 

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« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2006, 02:20:27 PM »
Paradox:

Erm... Yeah.. You're hardly in a position to take the moral high ground, Paradox. And it wasn't my intention to help you get one up on Piru (although that hasn't really happened.) I understand you're probably just be making light of this, but others may not see it that way.

My previous message was not solely for your benefit. I'm not defending your comments (far from it), but rather the right of privacy that all channel members should have. So although you say you don't have a problem with this, it doesn't excuse the fact that it happened. And so long as it doesn't happen again, all is fine and dandy.

If you're going to be sticking around in the channel inviting this sort of thing, the rest of us will suffer as a consequence. And be warned, if that happens, Matron will probably just ban you. But hopefully this is all moot and that won't be required. I hope so.


koaftder:

Because them be the rules. It's not a public channel in that sense. Sure, anyone can join, talk, stick around. It's more like an online social club of some sort. You wouldn't expect a conversation you have with some mates in a pub to be printed in the local paper the following morning. I really don't get the current blogging culture where everyone wants to broadcast their every whim to the world.

Of course if someone wants to paste something, asks and everyone involved says "go ahead" (which more often than not would be the case), that's cool.


Anyway, sorry all for going all off-topic yet again. I just wanted to be sure that's cleared up and my sentiment/side/agenda is understood.

I do have an opinion regarding the topic, btw, and it is this: amiga.org is the daddy.
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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2006, 02:33:11 PM »
If I said something off the wall at the pub with my friends, you better beleive its going to get repeated.

Permission is not needed to quote something from IRC, usenet, this forum, etc.

I understand that by your personal rules this is considered impolite, but also understand that for many (probably most) of us it's completely unecessary.

We are not talking about a private message or email here.
 

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« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2006, 02:43:17 PM »
The attitude is more relaxed in AO, but I've gotten the feeling that AW is a better place for getting help with OS4 and A1.

#AO is much better than #AW, unfortunately I'm not logged in as frequently as I want to.
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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2006, 02:59:42 PM »
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If I said something off the wall at the pub with my friends, you better beleive its going to get repeated.

Permission is not needed to quote something from IRC, usenet, this forum, etc.

I understand that by your personal rules this is considered impolite, but also understand that for many (probably most) of us it's completely unecessary.

We are not talking about a private message or email here.

Actually, there's aren't any special rights assigning forums and IRC channels as public places. In both cases you are expected to agree to the T&C when you register/log in.

I don't know if in this case there is such a stated condition that things said in the channel remain confined to the channel, but it's a perfectly reasonable condition if clearly stated.
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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2006, 03:05:30 PM »
@Paradox

Apples and oranges.

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« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2006, 03:12:42 PM »
I have never seen a rule in an IRC channel asking people not to repost stuff in the channel. That would be completely unenforcable and retarded.

 

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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2006, 03:16:48 PM »
this is my favorite Amiga site, even before I was a moderator.. I was lurking/posting on this site when Wayne was *emailing* Amiga news to folks.. that was cool.. I always looked forward to getting news in email about the Amiga because I didnt get time to visit like I wanted to and just wanted the latest scoop on what was going on in Amiga land.

He (Wayne) has done alot for the Amiga community and I'm glad he's let me be a part of this site.

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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #71 on: December 28, 2006, 03:21:04 PM »
Unenforceable? One could get ones IP-address banned from an IRC-channel.

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« Reply #72 on: December 28, 2006, 03:25:26 PM »
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I have never seen a rule in an IRC channel asking people not to repost stuff in the channel.

It may not exist, in which case those in charge of the channel should make sure it does before asking people to comply.

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That would be completely unenforcable

It's a question of manners and respect. I suspect that not having either would result in not being welcome on said channel.

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and retarded.

Why? Participation on forums and IRC channels isn't something people are entitled to. It's customary to have T&C or a set of rules one has to agree to when registering on a forum and you can ask people to abide by house rules on an IRC channel too. If you don't like those rules don't go there. What you think of the rules and whether they are enforceable or not is irrelevant really.

I'm not defending Paradox here as I think he's been sailing close to the wind on this forum already, regardless of anything he might have said on IRC, but people are entitled to make their own rules and expect you to observe them when visiting their home ground. If you don't like their rules regarding the IRC channel you can always start an alternative one without such rules.
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« Reply #73 on: December 28, 2006, 03:39:01 PM »
Since Paradox has no objection to the snippet being pasted here, I doubt any of the other people featured do either, but this is not really the point. We just don't like the sneaky way of joining a channel under a generic nick and not even participating in any conversation, and then pasting stuff on the forums. Simply asking would make a world of difference here. Obviously this can't really be prevented but surely we (meaning the channel operators and at least most regular users) are still allowed to comment on what we see as impolite behaviour?
 

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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #74 on: December 28, 2006, 03:50:17 PM »
I think that if there are rules in a channel and one rule is not to re-post what is said in the channel, then its best to abide by those rules.  

But if that irc channel doesnt have any such rule then its fair game.  
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