CyberStorm sent to DCE for repair

[Darth_X]

Who has the sockets?

[Framiga]

Hi Acill,

last week, Ron wrote me that he should go to DCE (Oberhausen) this week.

No news ATM.

Ciao

 

[Framiga]

@Darth_X

OK . . .let me play again:

The Company that has the right one socket for the 68060 CPU (223 pins SMD2PGA with "special self adjusting pins") is PRECI-DIP.

Go to HERE

In the datasheet it is in the 3th row, the third from right (18x18 xxx xP223-18-091).

PRECI-DIP:

Preci-Dip Durtal SA
Rue St-Maurice 34
P.O. Box 341
CH-2800 Delémont
(Switzerland)

Phone : +41 32 / 421 04 00
Fax : +41 32 / 421 04 01

E-mail : sales@precidip.com

[Framiga]

Hi All,

last week, Ron wrote me that he should go to DCE (Oberhausen) this week.

No news ATM.

Ron's trip to DCE in Oberhausen, delayed to Monday.

Ciao

[Acill]

Well maybe we will hear something back, but I am sure Dellert will just tell him what he thinks we all want to hear.   I have totaly lost all faith in DCE after this. I didnt have much left before now, but this is just to much. Any chance of me ever getting a Pegasos after all this is about gone now. I know they are not a DCE product, but they are made by them which means they get support for every one sold. Its a shame too. I like the Peg II design much better then the Amiga One, and MorphOS looks so damn nice.

[Framiga]

by Acill on 2003/12/12 16:01:48

Well maybe we will hear something back, but I am sure Dellert will just tell him what he thinks we all want to hear. I have totaly lost all faith in DCE after this. I didnt have much left before now, but this is just to much. Any chance of me ever getting a Pegasos after all this is about gone now. I know they are not a DCE product, but they are made by them which means they get support for every one sold. Its a shame too. I like the Peg II design much better then the Amiga One, and MorphOS looks so damn nice.

Beleive me, Acill . . .you are not the one.

There are hundreds of user all around the world , who are scaryed to deal with DCE and Co., due this problem.

We must all understand that DCE if had not been Genesis, it would be already "gone" from years (a couple at least)

The year of the end of DCE, as Amiga Classic related production, was end around 2001 (year of the begin of Pegasos production).

That's all folk . . . oops IMHO :-)

Ciao

PS- Please CU_AMIGA . . . .those avatar!!!

[sdesros]

As I understand, the Peg's productions happens at DCE and with their equipment, but I believe it's handled by Genesi staff.  (IE: They show up on the premises, use the machines, and move the pcbs out.)  But, since I don't work for Genesi, I have no clue if that's how it really happens.

However, considering that Ron is going over there around the same time that the PegII's are supposed to be built (15th) leads me to believe that they do at least have Genesi staff present to supervise the whole thing.

Anyway, this ongoing PPC dilemna is definately not look good for both parties.  I really hope that this works out for everyone's sake.   :-(

[Acill]

They may be made with help from the Genesi staff, but its still at DCE, and DCE still gets money for the use of its manufacturing equipment. Untill I get my PPC back i will not support them at all, even if its fora outstanding product. I paid a lot of money for that CSPPC card and it didnt even work when I got it. It was under warrenty and they basicly stole my card and never even bothered to ever contact me again untill this thread was started and Ron decided to help us all out. I owe him a lot of gratitude if all this works out, but I fell he is doing it to help save the good name of Genesis more then honestly wanting to get this solved on our behalf. Again thanks Ron, but lets please get this over and worked out.

[x56h34]

Ron must be very busy. I'm sure he will turn up eventually.

[Framiga]

EDITED

Hi sdesros

AFAIK BPlan is the planner of all the Pegasos boards that has its central in Oberursel (Frankfurt)

DCE Computer Service GmbH: at 46145 Oberhausen -  Kellenbergstr. 19a (Hessen)

Therefore i think that BPlan and DCE are very close and Genesi has no need to have its supervisor at DCE.

For the above reason, Ron sometimes go to DCE to check if Dellert is flown to Haway with some Peggy :-D.

Ciao

Eh, eh, eh little JOKE

BPlan is't at Oberhausen but at:

Adenauerallee 10
61440 Oberursel
Germany

EDITED

[Palpatine]

Hi,

@Franco
Actually, Rotterdam is closer to Oberhausen then Oberursel is.

I was planning to go to DCE this week but had to postpone. I hope to finally have some answers next monday on how it's definitely going to be solved. There are several possibilities to solve this, I will not mention all options that I have it mind, knowing exactly what will happen when I speak out about them.

Once again, I can only stress that this whole old repairs issue has nothing to do with production of PegasosII or any other Genesi product. Genesi is merely acting as a Mediator (no pun intended :-) ) to solve the issue as a gesture to the community. It is really inadequate if people link the quality of DCE's service in this matter to the quality of service and products provided by Genesi. I think Genesi's history will clearly proove such ideas wrong, especially if you remember that all previous Genesi products have also been produced at the same plant at DCE. I don't recall people complaining about the quality and service of those.

Anyways - I will post any news monday night if possible (depending on the time I get back)  or tuesday morning.

Cheers,
Ron

[x56h34]

Sounds good Ron. Looking forward to find out what's the status of my CSPPC card.

Thanks for your effort and time agian.

[Framiga]

Hi Ron

from a geographical POV, i agree :-D

From another POV, it's "human" that people link the quality of DCE's service with the products provided by Genesi!

Genesi doesn't produce or repairs nothing! It is DCE that do it.

Anyway i wish to thank you for the effort but we still wants our CSPPC DOA and payed more than 2 years ago, replaced with new one.

We all understand that DCE has no more a repairs center, but a CSPPC production line, yes.

Cheers

[AmiGR]

Genesi did (and I hope that they still do) the best they
could to resolve that issue, I think that it's not "fair"
to punish them (practically) in such ways.

[Stew]

"Genesi did (and I hope that they still do) the best they
could to resolve that issue, I think that it's not "fair"
to punish them (practically) in such ways."


   No wants to punish Genesi but want to stay away from DCE.  Would you buy a GM car made by Yugo?

[Acill]

Hey Ron good to hear from you. I hop when you get to DCE you have some good news from them. Thanks again for the updates!!