CyberStorm sent to DCE for repair

[Framiga]

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[Framiga]

@Ron

FOUND IT :-D

Forget the previous mail.

The Company was the right one: PRECI-DIP.

We have searced all the afternoon, with our technician.

Go to HERE

In the datasheet it is in the 3th row, the third from right (18x18 xxx xP223-18-091).

Try to contact PRECI-DIP at:

mailto: sales@precidip.com

Let we know.

Cheers

[Palpatine]

Hi Franco,

Thanks, I will talk to Mr. Dellert about it on monday and get back to you.

Have a nice weekend!

Cheers,
Ron

[seer]

Hmm.. I guess this thread is close to being the biggest ever ?

[Framiga]

@ al the involved users

This time it is the RIGHT ONE :-D

standard SMD>PGA 223 pind socket (the one labeled as: "18x18 xxx-xx-223-18-091")

Same pins layout as MC68060, same external sise, same free middle space . . . . THE SAME.

Now the problems are:

1- if Dellert "like" the idea

2- if the socket is really the last lacks component

3- erm . . .if PRECI-DIP or one of the dozens of its reseller all over the world, has a little stock of it (i don't know exactly . . .50-100 pcs?)

Cheers

[Framiga]

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[Palpatine]

Hi,

@FrAmiga
Sorry Franco,
No properly working internet connection here until one hour ago or so, so no contact with DCE yet. I have forwarded the PDF with a mail just now, will let you know about the reply.

Cheers,
Ron

[Framiga]

by Palpatine on 2003/11/10 22:25:00

Hi,

@FrAmiga
Sorry Franco,
No properly working internet connection here until one hour ago or so, so no contact with DCE yet. I have forwarded the PDF with a mail just now, will let you know about the reply.

Cheers,
Ron

Hi Ron,

OK, thanks

Ciao

At the Moderator-how about the wrong post hour? ATM here in Italy are 9:15 AM

[Palpatine]

Hi,

Ok - the bad news is that none of these sockets can be used. The design of the original CyberStormPPCs was based on a socket with pins that are not really firm, i.e. they can be moved. This is why the sockets were especially made for Phase5 and were so expensive.

The good news is that if they really can't be found, DCE will change the CyberStormPPC board's design (!!!) so that normal 68K sockets will fit and that the cards can finally be replaced....

Cheers,
Ron

[Acill]

Man this is taking forever! I am guessing by the fact DCE wants to change the design now that none have even been put together at all? Does this mean another few months of waiting!

On another note: I pilled the 68060 off my Mk III to get a look at the part. It sure looks like the last oe we found for you. I cant tell at all why it wouldnt work. The pins line up and the connection should be made fine. This isnt a IC chip or anything, its just a socket and that all.

[Framiga]

@ Ron,

WHAT?

read carefully the spec of those sockets (OR BETTER CALL THEM):

They have "mobile mobile self-adjusting SMD pins"s" and can be adapted to all PCB even on not planar one..

READ THE SPECS AGAIN.

The PRECI-DIP Company, uses a technology

"with"floating SMD contacts wich are self-adjusting with the solder pad, even with slightly distorted PCB" (from PRECI-DIP site)

You (DELLERT) have not even contacted PRECI-DIP.

The cost of an eventually small custom production (that PRECI-DIP can do) is less of a new PCB production.

So please DCE, as i already said, WE AREN'T MORONS.

[Framiga]

and again:

from HERE

"Preci-Dip DIL sockets with SMD terminations offer a perfect solution to this problem as they are designed for automatic assembly and reflow soldering. They are available with "gull wing" terminations for maximum mechanical strength and testability (series 110-...-105xxx) or with Preci-Dip's unique floating contact, compensating for unequally dispensed solder paste (series 114-...-134xxx). Both versions will be supplied either in tubes (suffix xxx = 161) or taped on reels (suffix xxx = 191)."

[Palpatine]

Hi Franco,

Ok, fwd' your message once again.. Will let you know...

Cheers,
Ron

[Framiga]

@ Palpatine

already posted to Dellert but with no answer.

Regards

[Acill]

I would say that is the place to get them. They are the exact spec needed as far as I can tell. If DCE calls them I am sure they will agree.

Oh and Ron did you get my email with the new address I will be moving to on Dec 1st?

[Framiga]

Hi

and now i wish to explain a my personal thought:

as already said in a previous post, i'm in constant contact with "some" Amiga related boards planner. (here and there)

Is it logical to think that P5 have decided, during the planning of the CS line, to use a "custom" CPU socket?

It would been a NONSENSE chosen trades. You agree?

AKAIK, only Commodore (when it was still alive) has adopted some custom components but . . . P5!!

Any comment from other Amiga hardware planners/producer, should be usefull.

Thanks for the attention

Franco Coccini