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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #59 from previous page: December 26, 2006, 08:39:24 PM »
"Hardware embedded" amiga 1200 viruses?!?  :lol:

Paradox whatever you're smoking must be pretty good, but I wouldn't suggest it long-term.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2006, 08:53:48 PM »
The A1200s you saw must have had hardware faults causing those symptoms (like discoloured screens). If you actually believe a virus could rewrite a READ ONLY chip to remain after poweroff then you're an idiot.

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2006, 08:57:23 PM »
Paradox,

actually, such a virus does exists, but it's embedded in your head, not in the amiga.

 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2006, 09:04:03 PM »
Most games aren't as dependent on CPU as they are on custom chips, so most of the time JIT wouldn't be of no use, still UAE gives a pleasant experience if you turn the sound off... even (namely) on less powerful machines


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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2006, 09:06:53 PM »
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actually, such a virus does exists, but it's embedded in your head, not in the amiga.

After reading through this whole thread, I'm sure that's impossible too, since his head appears to have been read-only at least since the age of 12.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2006, 09:08:32 PM »
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actually, such a virus does exists, but it's embedded in your head, not in the amiga.

After reading through this whole thread, I'm sure that's impossible too, since his head appears to have been read-only at least since the age of 12.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
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50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2006, 09:38:25 PM »
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he dont even know what an amiga virus is
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Wow dudes, I never laughted so much from an IRC log!
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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2006, 09:46:10 PM »
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either very dark screen or blank screen or wierd colours.


Errr... These are the words from a man who doesn't even know the difference between a guru meditation and a virus ... or a hardware failure.
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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #67 on: December 26, 2006, 10:08:56 PM »
Most of you are obviously not that clued up.


YOU CAN GET AMIGA 1200 VIRUS's THAT EFFECT HARDWARE AND STAYS EVEN WHEN YOU TURN OFF AND ON OR LEAVE OFF FOR AGES

you are completely insane.

I have had one of these virus's myself.

Absolute complete idiots..just becuse they are proven wrong time and time again you have to be stupid and bring up old {bleep} to try and back you up

your pathetic.

why cant we just talk normaly about this.

there are amiga hardware virus and you know it or you dont im not sure wether your taking the piss. :roll:
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #68 on: December 26, 2006, 10:29:08 PM »
@Paradox

...and the name of the impossible virus is? :-)

Since you're so convinced this virus exists and have successfully "purged" it from A1200s effectively "fixing" the problem, surely you can name the virus? VirusZ or other virus killer cannot fix anything they don't know about. So, what is the name of the virus?

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YOU CAN GET AMIGA 1200 VIRUS's THAT EFFECT HARDWARE AND STAYS EVEN WHEN YOU TURN OFF AND ON OR LEAVE OFF FOR AGES

NO YOU CANNOT. SUCH VIRUS DOES NOT EXIST.

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proven wrong

You haven't proven me wrong.

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there are amiga hardware virus

Repeating these things over and over don't make them any more true. There is no such thing as "amiga hardware virus". That is a fact. It's trivial to prove aswell: There is no way to store the virus code anywhere in the amiga hardware.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #69 on: December 26, 2006, 10:44:02 PM »
@pixie

That depends on which kind og game/demo you try to run. If you need to run a 060 demo like Starstruck, Lapsuus etc you can be  sure a JIT will help. It won't make miracles with slow hardware not capable of emulating at full speed a 020 AGA machine. But once you have the power capable of emulating an A1200 without skipping frames a JIT will help a lot to run cpu hungry demos like Ocean Machine.

Unfortunately I doubt an Efika can emulate an A1200 without skipping frames... It will have hard time trying to emulate an A500 at full speed!
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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #70 on: December 26, 2006, 10:49:25 PM »
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It will have hard time trying to emulate an A500 at full speed!

Agreed.

UAE in 320x240 without sound could not run Sanity Arte even remotely acceptable speed. Frameskip of 5 made it look closer to A500 speed, but frankly frameskip of any kind just sucks. And this was without audio...

EFIKA is surprisingly snappy for it's spec, but it for sure isn't very suitable for UAE.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #71 on: December 27, 2006, 02:15:33 AM »
@Paradox

First of all, you have no clue what you are talking about. The Amiga is *not* a simple system to emulate, period. I suggest you read the last paragraph on UAE on this page.

Second of all, if you have no hard disk or floppy drive in your system, you have the following storage left in your system (no matter whether you can actually store code there or not).
1) Chip RAM. It's DRAM, meaning that as soon as you power-off, refresh of the capacitors stops and the leakage erases everything on it.
2) Registers: They also get wiped on power-off, no matter the implementation.
3) Non volatile memory if you have an RTC. You definitely cannot store code there, it's a few bytes and gets incremented all the time.
4) ROM. No matter what, you cannot store *anything* there after manufacturing. The ROMs are literally hardwired, either they are fabricated with the mask defining the data written in them or they have fuses blown for 0s, etc, there are various methods. EEPROMs can be electrically reprogrammed, but the Kickstarts are not EEPROMs and there also is no reprogramming circuitry built into the Amiga hardware.

I've got the Amiga A1200 schematics right here, you can download them yourself off the web if you like. If you can find a way to permanantly store code on this design, you will be able to get a hell of a lot of money off companies. :-)
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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #72 on: December 27, 2006, 12:43:58 PM »
Its like ne of them virus's that survives warm reset but worse.

Read that gentlemens addition.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #73 on: December 27, 2006, 12:48:26 PM »
AMiGR you stupid big nose arse licker.


There are virus's that stay resident in the system. even after you turn off an on.

Im telling you you run this virus attatched to a file and it turns your amiga off with some nasty colours and then your amiga is broke.

TRUST ME

I dont know what its called but it does say something quick before it screws you video up for life.



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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #74 on: December 27, 2006, 01:13:48 PM »
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Im telling you you run this virus attatched to a file and it turns your amiga off with some nasty colours and then your amiga is broke.

Virus can't break the hardware, except by mechanical wear. It is possible to damage the floppy drive via software, for example (step the r/w-head like mad). It is not possible to break the hardware in the way you describe (missing colour components).

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TRUST ME

No-one trusts you. You are wrong and deliberately spreading misinformation. This isn't about trust anyway, but about facts.

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I dont know what its called

Well, obviously you can't, since it does not exist.