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[Fester]

Hi there,

I listed a Spider 2 USB 2 PCI card for A1200 on eBay last week but decided to yank it off eBay after someone by the name of Chris wrote in to say there were no drivers available for it. My understanding is that USB card isn't going to work without drivers. I don't know if this is true or not since I never got to install it. Don't own a 1200 anymore.

Shoot me a pmail if you'd like to have it. I'll charge you shipping costs, that's it. Otherwise it's going next door to the game farm for target practice.

Here are links to some pictures of the thing...

Spider Pic 1, Spider Pic 2, Spider Pic 3, Spider Pic 4

Good luck with it.
Fester

[giZmo350]

Geeeezuz Fester, get back in your room!  hahahahaha  j/k

I wish an experienced Amiganaut would answer this question of yours as now you've piqued my interest!

:roll:

Fester wrote:
Hi there,

I listed a Spider 2 USB 2 PCI card for A1200 on eBay last week but decided to yank it off eBay after someone by the name of Chris wrote in to say there were no drivers available for it. My understanding is that USB card isn't going to work without drivers. I don't know if this is true or not since I never got to install it. Don't own a 1200 anymore.

Shoot me a pmail if you'd like to have it. I'll charge you shipping costs, that's it. Otherwise it's going next door to the game farm for target practice.

Here are links to some pictures of the thing...

Spider Pic 1, Spider Pic 2, Spider Pic 3, Spider Pic 4

Good luck with it.
Fester

[redrumloa]

Ouch! That's rough!! First this company randomly trashed people's hard drives, not they sell products with now drivers? :-x

[adolescent]

It actually comes with a driver, but the developer of the only USB stack for the Amiga has discontinued classic support and registrations.  (Bummer too since the Thylacine Z2 USB was just re-launched after a couple of years...)

[Fester]

adolescent wrote:
It actually comes with a driver, but the developer of the only USB stack for the Amiga has discontinued classic support and registrations.

That's a more accurate description. I browsed over to Elbox.com and they are still selling this Spider 2. But when you click on the registration link you get this little surprise. That's unfortunate.

Fester

[alenppc]

This is the official reply from Elbox posted yesterday on the Mediator mailing list:

Hello Chris,

> This is a bit bad.
> http://platon42.de/poseidonreg.html
>
> What is elbox verdict on this ?

We have no idea why Chris Hodges goes along this line
once again. He does not contacted us on this issue. It
all looks as if he had the need, from time to time, to
slander us.

> Will they be offering refunds for hardware?

According to our mutual agreement with Chris Hodges, he is
obliged to provide stack registrations for the USB cards
for Mediator. (Writing and supplying USB drivers for
Poseidon has been an Elbox task, and registering USB stack
has been Chris Hodges task.) See: http://www.elbox.com/news_02_09_11B.html

You have every right to require Poseidon registration from
him.

> The author claims Elbox where using pirated Keys.

It is not true that we used pirated keys.
I responded to this slander at www.ppa.pl. This info was
also translated and forwarded by one Mediator user (thanks
Valwit!) to www.amiga-news.de, so Chris Hodges knows it.

The registration keys for Poseidon, used in the DRAGON
presentation at Amizaduszki, were fully legal. They were
registered through the ppa.pl registration service by Elbox
employee, who manages the computer, which was used in the
presentation.

> Will they be providing replacement software?

Possibly, especially when Chris Hodges refunds us the
costs of writing by Elbox drivers to his USB stack.
Writing of such EHCI drivers is about six months of
software programmer.


I really hope Chris Hodges would rethink it and stop this
weird action against Mediator users, himself and us.

Best regards,
Darek Smietana

Support Department of ELBOX COMPUTER
http://www.elbox.com
http://buy.elbox.com

[weirdami]

Why not return it to Elbox and get your money back?

[weirdami]

That "bad bit" has a link to register if you have other "hardware". Maybe it's possible to register pretending to be one of those people and just use the code on your real Amiga instead. ??

[Chain]

so for thylacine is possible to register poseidon?
Im really tempted, as price drops now at 60AUS!!
geez

[Crumb]

What about Guido Mersmann's "ArakAttack"? Will it be supported by Chris?

[Fester]

weirdami wrote:
Why not return it to Elbox and get your money back?

Hi weirdami,

Well, I don't own a 1200 anymore so I have no need for the device to begin with.

Secondly, I really don't want to deal with the fuss (if any)  of trying to get my money back with Elbox. My main goal is a mid-winter spring cleaning of the office and garage. :-)

When I posted the infamous Spider on eBay, I didn't know that the poseidon stack software or whatever it is, could not be registered. I found that out later.

One thing I might mention though, is that I find it quite pathetic that the Amiga community has to field the brunt of this argument between a programmer and a hardware company. That's not very professional. That's all I'll say about that.

Well thanks everyone for all your responses and pmails. Several people wanted the  board but I sent it to the first responder.

Fester

[TheMagicM]

I dont see the problem.   If Elbox is saying that they demo'd the DRAGON and people saw Posiedon running.. and that piece of kit was registered to the guy showing the demo, I guess I dont see the problem.  In general I dont see the problem.  Sounds like someone is just trying to screw Elbox out of some extra cash.

-Alex

[keropi]

@MagicM:

elbox said that the registration belongs to a guy that works for them, he owns NO amiga and that they use the registration inside their business. that happens to be against the Poseidon user license agreement, like with EVERY software out there that has PERSONALISED registration. this is no site license, but a license for a single person to use in his own amigas.
also there might be some other stuff we don't know, I cannot see why any software author would stop accepting registrations after such a long developement time invested...

[TheMagicM]

That doesnt make any difference.  If I'm using my work laptop at home and I buy a game I can play it on my work laptop. I may not own the laptop but that doesnt mean I cant install the game on my laptop.


EDIT:
worst case, he installed posiedon on more then one Amiga..his development machine @ Elbox and the one he demo'd it on.  Ok, delete the one you had it installed on and just leave on one machine.  No harm no foul.

[Fester]

TheMagicM wrote:
That doesnt make any difference.  If I'm using my work laptop at home and I buy a game I can play it on my work laptop. I may not own the laptop but that doesnt mean I cant install the game on my laptop.

Yup I agree. I think this is a case of splitting hairs and getting angry over nothing, turning around and making every customer suffer for it.

Fester