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Amiga peripheral simulation products
« on: December 14, 2006, 12:16:02 AM »
I am new to this newsgroup.  Someone just informed me about it.  I did some science projects back in high school based around amiga and ataris.  I recently ported some of the stuff over to Windows platform so I can use my Amiga through Windows '98/2000/XP.  You can look at some of the stuff that's available at: http://amiga.krishnasoft.com.  You can simulate Amiga mouse, joystick, keyboard, and disk drive via the PC at the hardware signal level (so no drivers are required on the Amiga side).  

You can boot your amiga with the simulator rather than a physical disk drive so even if you have an amiga with a broken disk drive or no disk drive, you can use the simulator with the amiga.

I also managed to port over an entire multimedia CDROM from PC platform to work on the Amiga using distributive programming...

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2006, 12:32:42 AM »
Welcome to A.Org!

The disk simulator sounds interesting... Can you use standard ADF files? And what about disks that contain some sort of protection?

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 12:42:21 AM »
Greetings! Welcome to Amiga.org.

Interesting equipment. It looks a little messy, but, if it works, who cares how it looks.

Now, according to your website:
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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 04:41:38 AM »
Yes, it works with ADF files (up to 128 tracks) but not high density disks yet.  Currently, I have the joystick, mouse, and keyboard simulators on an ebay auction to see what interest there is for such products:

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Use PC for Amiga and Atari joystick, mouse and keyboard
link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320062055859&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=011

You can also use MFM files directly so if the disk protection is in MFM format, you can directly read in the MFM raw disk and use it to boot your amiga.

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 04:47:28 AM »
The link I gave: amiga.krishnasoft.com was talking about simulating amiga peripherals using the PC's peripherals.  However, I am glad you read some of the other stuff and I will answer that as well since I wrote that article.

Devotees are not attached to money, computers, and internet but I ported the multimedia Gita CD to the Amiga using the simulated peripherals so it's being used in the service of God to make the world a better place.

As far as your point about it being messy; it's just a simple cable that plugs from your parallel port to the Amiga's disk drive port or keyboard/joystick ports.  I got an amiga 500 motherboard working just using the peripheral simulations for the keyboard, mouse, and disk drive.  Now, the motherboard uses less power as well since there's no disk drive, keyboard, or mouse attached to it.  Also, note that there are no drivers needed on the Amiga side; you just boot your amiga directly using the PC.

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 08:47:48 AM »
@amigaksi

Can you please ask Krishna or perhaps some of the other gods to get AOS4 out the door and on some hardware cause my god just ain't listing to me.
 

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2006, 07:07:11 PM »
As you can see, its a normal cable thats been hacked, spindled and mutilated. Not as neat as something that had been manufactured expressly for that purpose. But, if it works, who cares about how it looks.


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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2006, 07:52:30 PM »
It's manufactured by a company in bulk and they are all like that; it's not mutilated, hacked, etc.  The three little wires coming out of the otherwise smooth cable are for external drives DF1:, DF2:, and DF3: which are OPTIONAL.  Amiga 1000 does not carry DF1: SEL1 line in its internal floppy connector like other Amigas do so the a jumper would be needed for additional drives.

Not many cable manufacturers will manufacture cables going from a ribbon type cable to shell DB25 type connector so all the wire remapping was done within the shell so you see the twist near the shell.  Anyway, why are you so biased-- if you want to complain, you should have talked about all the cables not about the one you that does not seem to fit your views about what it should look like.  

Don't worry, there's a 7-day money back guarantee.  All the other cables are robust and within DBx shells since they do not require ribbon cables.

By the way, the auction listing was updated so you can also pick up the item and see a demonstration in person.  The auction wrongly had me in Italy whereas I am in USA.

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2006, 04:31:50 AM »
Although you could ask God for things that are your own wishes, it will only occur if it's within your karma (or group karma in this case).  So if you deserve it and all those others who want it deserve it, it will eventually happen. I suppose you see some of this in home games where the crowd cheers on the team and helps the team to win.  It does not necessarily have to occur since the opposition may have better karma (or even destiny) to win.  

Of course, the karma is determined by the actions you perform in this life and the result of the actions comes back to you in this life or the next.  There's good karma and bad karma which do not negate each other.  So you can have good reactions and bad reactions coming to you according to what you did in this life and the previous life.

All this is different from God's plan.  When you follow God's plan, then you are not under the law of karma.  For more on this, see http://www.krishnasoft.com.

There's a framework for building your own OS with the MPDOS software described at amiga.krishnasoft.com.  
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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2006, 06:54:31 PM »
There's also a stereo sound simulation which I did not mention in my first posting.  It's in the sound software and the link for that on Ebay is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=320063018885&rd=1&rd=1

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2007, 05:12:18 AM »
If you have a floppy drive problem or want to be able to direclty upload assembly language programs or image disks directly from your PC to your amiga, you may be interested in the following:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320070167192&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=011

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320070160401&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=011

That's the first time I am auctioning one of the MPDOS Professional versions.
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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2007, 05:37:05 PM »
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Amiduffer wrote:

Interesting equipment. It looks a little messy, but, if it works, who cares how it looks.


I think these are great hardware hacks, in the positive sense!

I recently recieved one of the kbd/mouse simulators, and the quality is just fine - at least as good as original CBM cables :)

I haven't been able to test it yet, probably will over the weekend, but I'll post how it goes.
 

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2007, 07:39:01 PM »
One difference between the hardware and the simulation is that the simulation does not use any power from the +5V line on the Amiga ports.  Neither the keyboard nor the mouse simulation draw power from the Amiga.  I bought some amiga 2000 from Ebay in which the joystick port was bad-- the joystick would work but the mouse would not due to some power problem.  However, with the simulation the mouse and joystick work just fine.  So if anyone has a joystick port problem similar to the one I just mentioned, they would also benefit from this product:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320070160401&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=011

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2007, 12:24:22 AM »
For those who are interested in a system with fast enough throughput for Floppy Drive simulations, check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=320091938536

Dell GX110 happens to be a system that gets close enough throughput to the 1 megabyte/second rate required for the floppy drive simulation using MPDOS Pro.  It actually gets to about 950Kbytes/second but the CIA chip has enough tolerance to deal with the slight deviations in the frequency of the bits coming in from the DKRD floppy drive control signal.

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Re: Amiga peripheral simulation products
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2007, 07:58:02 PM »
A bunch of people expressed interest in an amiga keyboard; I only have one left for sale currently; here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=320095402815

this does not have the left amiga key-- instead has a commodore key which does the same thing.

if you want the simulated version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=320095399217
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