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Eagle PCI Shuttleboard problem
« on: November 30, 2006, 12:26:57 PM »
Slowly getting the Amiga farm built...



Have fitted an A4000 mobo into an Eagle Tower, added the Eagle PCI Shuttleboard, hard-disk and gfx card.



It boots, but for some reason cards in the expander board are not seen. The card diag menu sees the Eagle board itself, recognised as a ZIII card (ID 2303 off top of head).



Any ideas what might be wrong? The manual is very poor (more to do with the tower case than the board), and I guess there was a board revision at some stage as the diagram of the board does not match the board.



There are jumper banks (J1 and J2) each of 3 jumpers. Neither is documented, any ideas?



Help, as would love to get this board going...
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Re: Eagle PCI Shuttleboard problem
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2006, 02:24:32 PM »
Hi,

What are you expecting from the PCI shuttleboard exactly..? It sounds like you want the Amiga to see the PCI cards which isn't what the Eagle tower kits did. The PCI slots are just for PC "bridgeboards" (which actually aren't bridgeboards really but just PCs in a slot).
When the Eagles cases were made there was no PCI solution for the Amiga so no drivers or anything.

At least as far as I know! I do wonder what the Eagle board is recognised for though - I know my board isn't (I have the ISA version) - it's completely passive.

On the plus side with a tower like the Eagle one, you can fit a Prometheus, which gives you 4 active PCI slots. I have a Voodoo III and an ethernet card in mine.... when there's working DMA etc I'll hopefully get a TV card in there too....
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Re: Eagle PCI Shuttleboard problem
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2006, 10:26:10 PM »
I want the extra Zorro slots!

The PCI slots are a bonus, but the inline ISA/PCI slot allows me to use an SBC PC in the same box, and those PCI slots could take a PCI card for the PC.

But thats icing. Its the Zorro slots that seem "dead". I tried the following known working cards:
Picasso IV
C64/3D x 2 (one Phase 5, one DCE MKII)
Multiface
Oktagon and Nexus SCSI cards
Prometheus

Nothing. No Zorro card shows in the early start card diags screen, sysinfo, nor showconfig.  All show - and work - in another A4K. The motherboard is fine, as they all work with the original C= Zorro riser board.

Do you have a manual for *your* Eagle board? I'm wondering if it has the same 2 three-pair jumper pads near the lower Zorro slots, and if so does the manual document them?

I also tried the cards in different slots, as the only docs I have suggest that the upper and lower slots are non-DMA, or optional bus expansion. Though, thats odd given the top two are the Z3 video slots...
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Re: Eagle PCI Shuttleboard problem
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2006, 09:24:16 AM »
Hmm... nothing needed to be done for mine at all - I just fitted it and it worked (apart with the Goldengate bridgeboard, but that's a different story). I don't remember there being jumpers on mine....

I think DMA works in all my slots too - I've had my Prometheus working in most of the slots at one time or another. I can only think the two busplanes are actually quite different... especially since mine doesn't show up in the early-start-up menu like yours does.

Sorry I can't help more!
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Re: Eagle PCI Shuttleboard problem
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2006, 09:44:39 AM »
Without being able to use the board, I can't confirm that some of the slots do not do DMA, only going by AHD/BBoAH and the diagram in the instructions...

The card ID that does show could of course be the WarpEngine I have fitted, which woulk tie in with yours not showing. And why should it - the C= Zorro backplane doesn't show, and the Micronics expander I fitted last night into another Mig doesn't show either.

In regards to the jumpers, they are in the lower part of the board, near the bottom two ZIII slots, labelled J1 and J2. Both are three lots of three pin jumpers, and all are set to pins1-2...
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Re: Eagle PCI Shuttleboard problem
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2006, 11:52:59 AM »
> I think DMA works in all my slots too - I've had my
> Prometheus working in most slots...

The Prometheus does not use DMA on Zorro (only PCI-PCI DMA). For testing Zorro III slots on DMA you should use either a A4091 or a Fastlane Z3.

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Re: Eagle PCI Shuttleboard problem
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2006, 12:13:37 PM »
:-(  Dontr have either of them.

Bloody heck, success! Cards appear in early startup diags. So like an idiot I rebooted, and they dont appear.

Methinks there is a loose connection or poor contact somewhere... at least the problem is "solved".
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