bluetooth

[InTheSand]

How do Linux developers get around this issue? Ubuntu comes with a free and working Bluetooth stack, as I'm sure do many other distros...

 - Ali

[Piru]

How do Linux developers get around this issue?

BlueZ - Official Linux Bluetooth protocol stack

Before you think about using it, read this

Also:

BlueZ was originally developed by Qualcomm Incorporated.

My guess is that Qualcomm somehow handled the license fee etc.

[Fransexy_]

What about a bounty for pay the licence agreements and release it as freeware? you must relese it for Amigaos, morphos and aros to get more people to pay for.Only an idea

[Hans_]

@platon42

Are you still developing the Bluetooth stack? You could initially release it without qualifying. I know that this is not the way you'd prefer to go, but it is an option. You would not be allowed to include the Bluetooth logo and would have to state that it's "Bluetooth compatible but not qualified".

Another option would be to set up a donation site. If you design the stack to work with the 68k AmigaOS, AmigaOS4, Morphos, and AROS, we might be able to scrape together the cash. It'll be a pity that all the money will go toward qualification, instead of rewarding you for your hard work.

The BlueZ stack for Linux was qualified with the help from TomTom who probably paid for it. Have you tried contacting Amiga Inc., Hyperion or Genesi? It's worth a try. Contacting DiscreetFX might be an idea as well. They've announced an interest in buying Amiga Inc. and appear to be interested in pushing the Amiga forward.

I hope you can find a way to proceed somehow as Bluetooth is becoming more and more important. It would be a real shame for all your work to go to waste.

Hans

[Hans_]

Does anyone else have any suggestions? From the sounds of it, Platon42 has already done quite a bit of work on a Bluetooth stack. Bluetooth devices are becoming more and more numerous. Wii's controller, for example, uses Bluetooth.

All we need is to either come up with $10,000 USD, or, find a way that Platon42 can release his work without it. The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with using a non qualified stack to communicate with Bluetooth devices. This is the same thing as MESA being OpenGL compatible, but not OpenGL certified. MESA can't use the OpenGL logo, but OpenGL apps still compile and run with it. Surely Platon42 could release it under a name other than Bluetooth and provide necessary disclaimers saying it hasn't been qualified and hence is not guaranteed to work with all devices (just because it hasn't gone through the testing procedures)?

So, any other creative ideas?

Hans

[Pyromania]

@Hans

FYI

platon42 has never contacted DiscreetFX about his Bluetooth stack.

[Zac67]

Hmm - what about calling it "Greentongue" and make it just "Bluetooth compatible" - in this our small Amiga world, we'll all know what to do with it.  ;-)
As long as you're using open specs, this should be perfectly legal, since you're even allowed reverse engineering for interoperability.

If you ever pick up Amiga development again that is...

[Crumb]

@platon42

can't you simply release your Bluetooth stack without getting a certificate?

I could live without the Bluetooth logo and I could live without a message stating that Chris' wireless stack is certified and licensed. :-)

[Nlandas]

platon42 wrote:
> no, don't bother at all... there is no bluetooth stack.

And I'm not sure there ever will be. Last time I spoke with the Bluetooth SIG Marketing Director at the Bluetooth Open Houses in October, he said that I would have to pay 10,000 USD for qualifying my product (i.e. the Bluetooth Stack) and that it's very unlikely that the SIG will reduce that fee for me as a single developer.

I doubt you can imagine how this feels after spending a lot of time and work in developing the stack :-(

Can't you just call it GreenTooth and say it's BlueToothTM compatible? Then you can certify the it works with specific BlueTooth devices without saying it's BlueTooth certified, etc.?

I'm sure Amiga users would still be interested.

-Nyle  :-D

----EDIT----
Ok, Great minds think alike. I'm sorry I shall flog myself for not reading the last two posts on the thread.

-Nyle