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Offline AmiDude

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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2006, 01:50:00 AM »
The whole point about FPU's, without all the annoyance,
is that any Amiga with average use has no need for an
FPU whatsoever...
 

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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2006, 01:52:38 AM »
@amidude

read the posts, you are repeating me.
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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2006, 01:56:02 AM »
@kidkoala

I don't repeating you... I just explain it to
everyone without the annoyance...
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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2006, 02:07:28 AM »
most people here know what you just said, and that is not what the thread is about, thus your last posts are worthless, annoying if you will ;) other people here read the posts, so the already knew, or they know now, that an fpu is ofcourse not needed, for everyday use.

please stop posting here if you aren't interested in everything else about the fpu, than that it is not a vital part of the system. :)
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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2006, 02:13:57 AM »
@kidkoala
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i've counted about 20 programs that CAN, use the fpu here, and when it does use it, the program probably always gain very high calculation-speed, for what it need the fpu for, contra the speed without the fpu.

the point here is to find out what programs and games that can take use of the fpu, not that it's a higly needed thing that is vital to everyday use of a classic amiga.

if you haven't understood that by now, you need to read the whole thread over again, and you might also want to read a bit between the lines...;)

if you don't find the topic interesting at all, don't post :)

 I think you are the one who needs to read the whole thread over again. Like i said, i was reffering to some false lists of games and apps which were posted [bold]EARLIER[/bold] in this thread. I'm not talking about your list which seems valid to me. Got it now?


 Anyway, back on the FPU games/apps. One of the Amiga games which utilize (but not requires) the FPU and it's not widely known for this, is Ambermoon.
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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2006, 02:18:59 AM »
@kidkoala

What's with this hostile attitude of you?
This is a friendly forum about Amiga related
subjects. Hold your horses dude. Otherwise
take your questions elsewhere...
 

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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2006, 02:26:22 AM »
 Let us all do some breathing exercises. :-)
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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2006, 02:33:51 AM »
@amigamenace

hehe, that whole post wasn't targeted at you..:)

i just get a little irritated when people can't stick to the benefit of the topic when we've clearly gotten to the point in the thread (within the first 10 posts or something), where everybody (i thought) knew that an fpu is not a vital component, and then goes on and on saying over and over again that it isn't. i just can't understand why someone wants to keep on like that..
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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2006, 02:37:01 AM »
@AmigaMance wrote:
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Let us all do some breathing exercises


Yeah...that's the first reasonable remark I
heard in this whole thread.. :lol:
 

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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2006, 02:38:59 AM »
What's funny about all of this is on PCs back in the day, adding an FPU DID in fact speed up things dramatically. I've still got the system I used back in the early 90's sitting next to me, a 80486SLC (80386 replacement) with an 80387 co-processor.

I guess most PC software back then autosensed the presence of an FPU and took advantage accordingly, whereas any well designed Amiga application would simply allow the math libraries to handle and redirect the necessary data.

Unless the app was designed for a direct hardware hit, I can see where there would be a bottleneck going from app to library before figuring out which processor to hit next.

Might also explain why computers, no matter how fast the hardware gets, still take the same amount of time to do anything as they did 10 years ago. So many freakin layers of crap to go through before actually getting to perform a function in harware. Translate this, translate that, blah blah!

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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2006, 02:39:59 AM »
@kidkoala

Don't be irritated dude... Lighten up!

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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2006, 02:45:47 AM »
@dr_righteous

hehe, that's a cool view on the matter..i guess pc's maybe managed to use fpu better in some way, back then..

@amidude

i'm gonna lighten up on you, when you start posting relevant stuff :)
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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2006, 02:50:41 AM »
@kidkoala wrote:
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i'm gonna lighten up on you, when you start posting relevant stuff :)


I've been posting more "relevant stuff" on A.ORG
then you my friend...You're just a rookie...
 

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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2006, 02:58:39 AM »
hehe..it's the first time i've heard someone say something like "you're just a rookie" since high-school or in some b-movie or something, that lightened me up :)

i was ofcourse talking about relevant stuff in this thread..
again, please don't post more unrelevant stuff, ok? :)


 
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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2006, 03:04:14 AM »
@kidkoala

I post whatever I like. It's a free and democratic forum.
What's you're problem dude...It's the 3th time or something
that you ask people not to post anymore...
What's wrong with you? :-?
 

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Re: Need explanation of the CPU and FPU technology on turbo boards
« Reply #59 from previous page: November 26, 2006, 03:07:24 AM »
i'm not telling you to stop posting, i'm telling you to post things that benefit the thread more, and not things that already are said, that's all. please don't feel affended, it's just positive criticism..

ofcourse i can't make you stop posting other stuff, but then everybody else has to scroll like mad to get to the interesting parts ;)
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