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Selling UAE is this leagle?
« on: November 14, 2006, 04:39:10 AM »
Found this on ebay, looks shady to me.

UAE and games
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2006, 04:57:19 AM »
Jesus, 13 quid for a CD-R with some ADFs and UAE? And those ADFs and Kickstart images most certainly will not be licensed.

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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2006, 05:21:44 AM »
I would report this to ebay but I can't find how to do it anywhere on the site.
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2006, 05:35:17 AM »
There is a "Report this item" link at the bottom of the page.
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2006, 05:45:17 AM »
Amiga Forever have been selling WinUae for years..  :(
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this leagle?
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2006, 05:53:47 AM »
The reporting system is not completely friendly to this kind of violation.  The best match I can come up with is "unauthorized multi-game" or something of that nature.

Is there a vigilante group out there which monitors for this type of transgression?  Anyone interested in coordinating or participating in one?
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2006, 06:01:12 AM »
Thanks it's been reported for what its worth.
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2006, 06:17:16 AM »
Three hours to go... I doubt eBay will yank it before this guy makes his money.

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Re: Selling UAE is this leagle?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2006, 07:50:33 AM »
Selling UAE is legal. Selling illegal copies of games and Kickstart ROM images is not.
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2006, 07:52:25 AM »
@ CaptChaos:

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Amiga Forever have been selling WinUae for years.. :(


Hello Captain... (he cries: Dah,Daradahhh!)

When you buy Amiga Forever you pay the fees for licenced versions of Amiga Kickstarts and OS, and some other sofware included in it.

AFAIK they got a licence to include also UAE in their distro.
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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2006, 07:56:05 AM »
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AFAIK they got a licence to include also UAE in their distro.

(Win)UAE is GPL, you can sell it without any further licensing.
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this legal?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2006, 01:58:22 PM »
FWIW, this was my question to him:

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Item: Amiga Emulator WinUAE + 237 Classic Games eg GAUNTLET (280045390981)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
loadwb is a potential buyer.
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Does this CD include the necessary ROM files?

And this is his response:
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Item: Amiga Emulator WinUAE + 237 Classic Games eg GAUNTLET (280045390981)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
mogant0 is the seller.
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yep


So, it's quite evident to me that, other software not withstanding, he is selling illegal copies of the Amiga Kickstart ROM(s).

EDIT: When I just looked, the listing is shown as removed.
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this leagle?
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2006, 02:06:35 PM »
Good Job. Its no longer listed on ebay, or at least on the link you provided.
 

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Re: Selling UAE is this leagle?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2006, 02:19:50 PM »
And the whining goes on and on and on.....
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Re: Selling UAE is this leagle?
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2006, 03:05:41 PM »
Yeah, I noticed you started already.  Any chance you could take that elsewhere?