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Offline ricco32097

'OS5' Myth or Fact?
« on: November 06, 2006, 04:22:14 PM »
They have used two years so far.
They say that five men are currently working on this system and they will be adding more people. Should we expect anything from them before the year 2010?
Is the hardware ready?

Then again...why ask when nobody knows. Bummer!

Offline Magic-Merl

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2006, 04:27:42 PM »
Mmm.  I sometimes worry.

Not alot.  But sometimes.

Offline TheMagicM

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2006, 04:53:27 PM »
just treat it as vapour until there is actually proof...otherwise you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Offline Tomas

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2006, 07:23:52 PM »

TheMagicM wrote:
just treat it as vapour until there is actually proof...otherwise you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

I agree.. better to have low expectations and maybe one day be pleasantly suprised. If you no expectations, then you wont really get dissapointed either.

Offline the_leander

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2006, 07:47:44 PM »

TheMagicM wrote:
just treat it as vapour until there is actually proof...otherwise you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

Quoted for truth.

When OS5 was first announced there was still momentum in the Amiga market. Now... nothing.

For me Amiga's final nail in the coffin as far as anything other then a retro system was when Eyetech announced that A.inc hadn't touched OS4 in months due to money troubles, on the day of the launch of the ill fated AOne.

There was a joke in the BeOS community as to which would be released first - AOS4 or Zeta R1.0.... Well, Zeta is now at 1.2 and OS4 will thanks to the tangled web that's been weaved probably will never see a final release. At this point, I fully expect Zeta will get full multiuser functionality and a 2.0 release before a new version of AmigaOS is released (by that I mean something other then a beta).

At this point I see devices like the minimig to have far more of a future then any number of troikas, samanthas or whatevers. AmigaOS at this point is so far behind on so many levels that beyond retro computing, has no hope of being marketable to the general public, or even more mainstream geeks.

Sorry if that upsets anyone, but that is how I see it.
Blessed Be,
Alan Fisher - the_leander


Offline dammy

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2006, 08:16:45 PM »


Unless otherwise noted, I speak only for myself.

Offline Manu

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2006, 08:37:47 PM »
It would suprise me if we have anything called
OS5 by 2010.

I think the problem nowdays is( of course funding ) but
also the attitude that "amiga can't compete with windows"
is not helping to move the platform forward.

Instead years ago, those in charge should have done what
Mac did now. They should have thought "Yes we have an OS that can compete with windows because its just that good" and went head on challenging Windows on those x86'es. I wonder what did they think they got to loose? The userbase
disappeared anyway.

I know it's easy to speak afterwards of what should have
been done, but as long as Amiga is heading where it's headning now there is NO future what so ever....unless you are 100% pleased to be a hobbyist on a hobbyist os.

It's also interesting to see the originals, Sassenrath, Haynie being so openminded towards general hardware. You
would expect them to be "loyal" to the Amigas roots but as
I see it they grew with the rest of the world and actually
sees the things with an open mind.

They have no built in legacy support in their thoughts about Amiga  :-)
AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they\\\'d go faster. --D.Haynie

Offline kzin

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2006, 09:12:02 PM »
seems to me that AROS is the way to go...

Offline Damion

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2006, 09:22:51 PM »

kzin wrote:
seems to me that AROS is the way to go...

yup... I'll be dual-booting Vista/AROS with my next hardware rebuild.

Offline monami

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2006, 09:28:48 PM »
there's always gonna be room for another os. linux has just become a great alternative to windows and it's free... and it took it's time doing so, if you ask me.  it's a shame the amiga is only looked at as a money making exercise instead of any other strengths it has.
surely there is some nostalgia amongst some millionaire's out there? is anyone actively lobbying them??? ubuntu linux has got good support from someone very rich in south africa. i'm not sure if they are into the idea of big profit in the future. but when you have little userbase you have to go back to basics not dwell on what amiga was or could be. you have to get amiga  on peoples desktops again anyway you can. emulation was a great way to bring in people. but so many disgruntled community members sneered at new members as "pirates" they went elsewhere... cutting the amiga userbase even more. what a shame!
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Offline benJamin

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2006, 10:25:37 PM »

Sometimes I swear that dead horse is your avatar...


"Quad-boot FC6, FC5, AROS and XP (for the lady)."
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Offline Louis Dias

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2006, 12:21:23 PM »
The problem I have with Linux is that it's not as easy to use as Windows and is now as memory hungry.

AROS FTW!  It boots fast and doesn't have that bloat factor and is easier to use.

But for OS5, to be platform independent, it needs to come with a JIT that runs a platform independant language such as any intermediate-code made by Microsoft's .NET platform.

Real, the Amiga-Anywhere model is a really smart idea, but I don't know if JAVA is the right language to do that with.  Hardware drivers would still be natively compiled, just that an API that is common to all platforms would expose it to the programmer and all apps would run on all platforms...

Offline Starrunner

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2006, 03:26:18 PM »
As far as I am concerned, the Amiga died the same day Commodore did all those years ago.  I was at first excited when someone finally bought them.  But then there were all the changing of hands.  Finally, when Gateway got its hands on things Amiga, I was excited again.  But then I realised once again that nothing was happening.  And now...well

We will prolly never see an actual OS4.0 let alone an OS5.0.  The factors are many I suspect.  Sometimes, I can't help but wonder if the demise of the AmigaOS doesn't have a darker force behind it.  (Microsoft)

Offline boing

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2006, 05:02:16 PM »
First of all Alan's negativity and badmouthing of the AmigaOS sucks.

Secondly, what, exactly, do we need Amiga Inc. for anyway? I doubt they have the money to mount a legal challenge against anybody who tried to infringe on their "rights". Maybe a little economic hardship would be all it would take to convince them to sell off whatever rights they do suposedly have. Does Fleecy stll have a greencard?


Offline pixie

Re: 'OS5'
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2006, 06:06:33 PM »
Sometimes I swear that dead horse is your avatar...

You're mistaken, it was legion's one :-P

pixie- writing from a paradise called Portugal