E-uae Problems

[Gh0styuk]

Hi all i`m hoping that this is the place to post this. I have just installed mandriva onto my second machine and i am trying to installing e-uae, now the problem is everytime i go to install it it tells me that i have some wrong ver of gtk-devels now i have installed the latest ver of them and then i try again to install it aand it gives me another file i need to find and download its all gtk stuff but when i found that and then installed it and tryed to install E-uae again it tells me that gtk-devels are wrong again. I am new to the linux and the only resion i have it in is cus i did not want to pay for anther windows xp cd and i`m liking linux alot hope anyone out there can help.

Regards
Gh0styuk

[xaccrocheur]

as root, what does entering "urpmi uae" does ?

[Gh0styuk]

no package named uae

Is that due to the fact that i have not installed uae cus of these dependances noot installed which i have installed bit it seems to keep ona sking for thesame ones to be installed.


Thank you for the help
Regards
Gh0styuk

[xaccrocheur]

Nope, it's only due to the fact that none of your RPM mirrors actually have UAE.
I'd suggest a visit to http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ then follow the steps. Don't forget to *wipe out* your existing sources, of conflict may occur

So that breaks down as follows :
(as root, of course)

- urpmi.removemedia (enter. The shell says "you have to specify what source you want to remove" but then you can see what sources you have installed. My guess, if you did not touch anything, is that you have your installation CD(s) listed as sources. Get rid of it :
- urpmi.removemedia *

Then enter, one by one (well you could do a small baSH script as an exercise :-) ) the new sources (remember that middle mouse button (or scrollwheel) is a copy/paste buffer in X-window, so it's easy : Just select the lines of the 4 or 5 new sources (don't forget to add PLF sources : Copyrighted material, ask me about details) and in a shell, as root, just press the MMButton and hit the enter key. Do this for each source. Then run "mandriva update" and get a stable(r) & updated system.

- Promise yourself to never use bare "rpm" again, for install/desinstall purposes. Only urpmi saves you "RPM dep hell".

Now what does "urpmi uae" says now ? Here on the MDV box, it installed uae w/o any trouble.

[pedro7]

I had problems with wrong package versions when I tried to install e-uae. My problems were solved by getting the source .tar.bz2 file from the e-uae site compiling it myself.
It's not too difficult to compile it yourself, even if you are new to linux. I think a simple './configure' followed by 'make' worked for me. There are options that you can use which are explained in the docs but I think all the important ones are enabled by default. IIRC there is no 'make install' step, the binary file generated can be run from your home directory.

[xaccrocheur]

pedro7 wrote:
(...)It's not too difficult to compile it yourself, even if you are new to linux. (...)

Mm... I would not advise a newbie to compile/install anything over-passing the package syst... Oh well... What am I saying.. Compiling is fun, go ahead BTW, It had to be said : On the same machine, UAE runs circles around WinUAE, witch kinda reassures me No, this is NOT a serious benchmark, just a quick comparison between the playability of the *same* game (zeewolf2) under the two OSes on the same HW.

[Gh0styuk]

Thank you xaccrocheur for your  help i will try what you said when i get home from work today, but i have to say i am like linux at and if i can get uae to work i am set for life, i will let you know how i do.


Regards
Gh0styuk

[xaccrocheur]

Your welcome, Gh0styuk. IMHO You made the right choice w/ Linux Mandriva. Once you installed UAE, I suggest that you use some pre-configured WB, like AIAB or (looks good but haven't tried it) AmigaSYS you'll need your WB disks handy, there are plenty of tutorials around, at least for AIAB. (I even wrote one, but lost it :-?

Such a config is fun to test ADF images, mess with HDFs and wow your friends (my daughter gasped when she saw AIAB)
But Frankly, I use my Amigas (3060/CV64, 4040 & 1230) for :

- Playing games
- Making 8-bit sounds for my music
- Animations (Deluxe Paint, Brilliance & Perfect Paint)

And for those purposes, I found that *nothing* beats a real Miggy. W/ Emulation, sound is crap, DPaint does'nt run happily, and not all the games work.

[Gh0styuk]

Thank you so much for the help and i followed what you posted and i got it to work so thank you very much. I have to say i am really getting in to lunix. I have a stock A1200 but i lack the space to have it all setup so i am trying to get my second Pc running as much as i can. I was was also looking at aros may have to look into that aswell.


Thanx again for helping me out

Regards
Gh0styuk

[SamuraiCrow]

Another note:  The AHI drivers that come with WinUAE also work with the x86 build of E-UAE even thought the E-UAE documentation says it's on the TO DO list.

[xaccrocheur]

3 things :
- UAE vs. E-UAE
- Linux UAE packaging tips
- Availability of Workbench ADFs for honest, legit owners of their beloved OS.
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I'd like to know the differences between E-UAE and plain UAE ; It seems that a fork happenned somewhere, but I can't really find the info about where, when and most of all why..?
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I just installed e-uae (just by entering "urpmi e-uae" into a shell as root), it prompted me that it had to remove my existing "uae-0.8.25-0.20040302.1mdk.i586" (due to conflicts with e-uae-0.8.28-0.rc2.4mdk.i586) and I said yes.

Now I have a fresh E-UAE 0.8.28. The command is still "uae" so that was a bit confusing. [color=ff0000]Linux MDV Hint[/color][/i] : To know what exactly has been installed, first look for the package :

rpm -qa | grep uae
e-uae-0.8.28-0.rc2.4mdk

then enter
rpm -qil e-uae
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I'm also looking for an idea about a quite sensitive issue : the availability of ADF images of the Workbench system disks. I personnaly own the WB 1.3 that came with my A500, the WB3.0 that came with my 1200, a WB 3.5CD box that came with a secondhand A3000, and a 3.9CD that I bought online at Serele, back when it was still alive as that the last french Amiga retailer.

And yet, last time I needed images of a 3.1WB to install a UAE setup on a linux box, I had to hunt for, well, "pirate" images, that I managed to found, I still wonder how.

It's quite obvious that a lot of people looking for such "illegal" ADFs are indeed legit owners of the WB. Sure enough some are not, & I won't enter the debate wether why them using WB IMGs nevertheless is really hurting anyone, I mean after all they are really getting closer to the Amiga world..?

I'm just wondering, how could we make the images available to them legitimate owners, w/ making thme stealing them (and possibly feel bad about it:shrug:) ?

Because everybody knows that once when Miggies are in the closet collecting dust for ages, even when your WB disks are here in front of you, let's face it, you're still not quite there. And many of those guys want, in fact, not only play w/ UAE, but really get their old real Amiga running anew !

How to make the ADFs ? :headwall:

- Get a disk-to-ADF from Aminet, transfer it to the miggy in some way
- Power your Miggy and get a system running
- Make the ADFs
- Copy the ADFs to a medium that will be readable by your Peecee.

There's a lot of uncertainty in some of those steps... Seriously, this is not trivial.

I'm just asking, really. But this seem like a PB impossible to solve. I personally provided ADF IMGs to would-be UAE users in despair:boohoo: that asked me, but I talked to them for some time:admonish:, and they convinced me that they were Amiga users, possessing one (often more) copy of the original WB. I also managed to make two of them actually buy the 3.9 CD from AmigaKit.

If you ask me, I thing that WB3.1 ADF images should be made public, available from Aminet. After all, you don't get the manual, and you will not easily make real Miggy disks out of them. I humbly think that would only draw more attention to the platform, eventually leading to new users.

I don't know about you, but I feel something. As Vista gets closer, and Desktop Linux really mature but also really "freezed", a need for a new system is still there. I'm really impressed by the latest Aros progress. (BTW good review here) Imagine an ELF executable compatibility layer, a GTK/Zune wrapper and... Oh well, that's another post. :crazy:

[xaccrocheur]

Hey Gh0styuk, any new of your MDV Linux install of (E)UAE ?

[Gh0styuk]

LOL abit late but yeah its going great thanx to your help really enjoying mandriva alot beats windows thinking about dropping all my windows machines to run this.