Is anybody thinking about joining the Rebellion (Pegasos/MOS)?

[AmiGR]

Ok, now reread my posting and rereply...
I said it is ready FOR THAT CHANGE...

[Alkemyst]

""Well, my concern is this: when OS4 was announced, shortly afterwords Elbox was touting their SharkPPC card saying that it would run OS4. Much later the Pegasos board was announced as well which is a nicer (in my opinion) board than the A1.

Now it seems, mainly due to this 'dongle' issue that SharkPPC's and PegasOs boards (which are hardware compliant) wont be running OS4. I just don't care for this approach, seeing as the end user will probably have to pay more money for a 'dongled' board due to licensing costs"


Where have you been over the last 6 months.
 
The licensing costs nothing & flashing the Bios dont cost much either
And seeing both the pegasos & the Aone have to reflash the Bios anyway as none of then use the bio info that came as standard. The cost of adding the Aos4 key at the same time in the bios=O
 
Aos4 will work on PPC cards there is no reason why it wont work on the shark & issue of the shark atm is not the dongle its the fact that Elbox will not send hyperion a board or a spec sheet.

[Kay]

> eyetech will not send hyperion a board or a spec sheet.

I'm assuming you mean Elbox, not Eyetech. I don't mean to be pedantic, I just thought I'd point it out to prevent any misunderstandings, in case someone who hasn't been paying attention reads this.

Kay

[Alkemyst]

Thanks Kay ill edit that

[Alkemyst]

http://jp.planas.free.fr/main.htm

MOS Whats that all about then

Yeah .. I'm thinking about going the Pegasos/Morphos route.

I've seen the machine actually up and Usably running....

MUCH MORE than can be said for the NameONE.

Then again.... I might just go buy myself a screaming Athlon & Suse.

[Elektro]

@ newbee

too much time? took me 2 minutes to find the peeing guy and post it here...

http://jp.planas.free.fr/main.htm

what the hell is that?

[AmigaMac]

what the hell is that?

Looks like more 'uselessware' for Windows to me!

[zudobug]

Is anybody thinking about joining the Rebellion (Pegasos/MOS)?

Ask me again in February.  I'm just gonna sit this one out until I can compare both options.  I need to see the final products first.

I may decide to go for neither.

Who knows? Who cares? Not me.

-zudo

[ne_one]

@Zadoc

"If WinXP required dongled x86 boards, there would be an uproar from people having to pay for Microsoft to physically dongle every x86 board on the market."

Er... XP does have a dongle -- it's called the internet.

Don't like anti-piracy measures? How does it grab you that your PC is open to scrutiny to the maker of the operating system? Of course, no one bootlegs software or downloads porn so why worry?  ;-)

[zudobug]

ne_one:

Bang on :-)

It's also worth noting that M$ are going several steps further down a much darker road that makes a dongle look like not such a bad thing afterall.

http://www.iscnetwork.com/ISC/Palladium.htm

Put that in your pipe and smoke it ;-)

-zudo

I think morphos and amiga should work together because war between the two will hurt the Amiga community.

http://www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/support/qandas/faqs/faq-0058.html
is the link. here is the text:

Why is it called the "GeekPort," anyway?
     
The BeBox:
Specifications  
FAQ Number:
FAQ-0058  
Last Modified:
2/3/98  
Keywords:
BeOS, BeBox, Specifications, GeekPort, design, philosophy  
 What do you call people who design their own stuff to plug into their computers, especially analog stuff? What would you call a port designed specifically for them?  

Don't like anti-piracy measures?

AOS4 will be pirated all to hell the second it ships...no dongle has EVER stopped anything from bieng pirated... in fact their form of anti-piracy is the MOST flakey.

How does it grab you that your PC is open to scrutiny to the maker of the operating system?

 WinXP's got a real anti-piracy measure... the internet... activation has stopped tons of people from pirating it... did they stop selling retail? no... they just added a feature.

PC's run more then just XP aswell NetBSD/OpenBSD/FreeBSD/Linux/BeOS...etc..

Of course, no one bootlegs software or downloads porn so why worry?  

of course people bootleg... people will bootleg OS4 and other amiga apps... especially those who cant afford the very expensive A1 ...they may turn to buying the cheap Linux-Dev version from eyetech.

[strobe]

My mind isn't made up, but I'm more inclined to believe MorphOS is the real deal.

1) It will be 100% PowerPC native. The 3.x compatible libraries are native. I have lived through Mac OS's 68k to PowerPC transition, it was painful. Mac OS X was less painful because it was written from scratch. On this basis I'm more inclined to use something built for a new platform from scratch than a port.

2) The only thing running on the A1 is ExecSG which is useless on its own. I think people are far too optimistic regarding how long it will take for the complete OS to be ported. Even when it is there is little telling what percentage of the OS will be native. MacOS was LESS dependent on specialized chips than AmigaOS and it took many years for a fully PowerPC version to surface.

Switching between 68k and PowerPC contexts isn't costless. On paper I expect MorphOS to be faster on similar hardware.

Anyway, I already spent a lot of money on the 'establishment', a PowerBook Titanium. I won't be able to buy new hardware in a long time.

[Alkemyst]

"2) The only thing running on the A1 is ExecSG which is useless on its own. I think people are far too optimistic regarding how long it will take for the complete OS to be ported. Even when it is there is little telling what percentage of the OS will be native. MacOS was LESS dependent on specialized chips than AmigaOS and it took many years for a fully PowerPC version to surface."
 
i would not complare the porting of MacOS to PPC with the porting of AmigaOs to ppc.
 
as they are nothing alike & the sizes of the oses are nothing alike.