Is anybody thinking about joining the Rebellion (Pegasos/MOS)?

[Panthro]

I have FULL confidence in Hyperion to make
OS4 cool .... the twins code so well me and my
mates call 'em "the Magi" (after the human
computer brains on Evangelion) the games they make will run on the Os THEY coded ... makes for
good results Opus Magelan YAY etc  :-D

Call me a name follower but officialy the future look
very bright indeed  ;-)



PS I would not buy a  version of AmigaOS that was
also avalible on X86 it is a slow death & very painful.

[Elektro]

MOS MOS



 :-D  :-D

[Rob]

I think that were it not for the fact that Hyperion are managing the OS4 project and developement I would have given up on it quite some time ago.  OS4 means a lot mor than just the Amiga name to me

[iamaboringperson]

Precisely! This "join the rebellion" or "follow the 'official' path" crap must look ridiculous to anyone "on the outside" looking in.

i agree!
when i first heard about the amigaone i was very happy :-), then i heard about the pegasos and was happier still  :-D ! not because i think its a better board(which it may well be),  but just because of the choice, i hope ill be able to buy one and then be able to change my mind later, im not the sort to barrick for one or the other.  

[AmigaMac]

ne_one,

Hey... I just wanted to say, AWESOME AVATAR!!! 8-)

[ne_one]

@AmigaMac

"Hey... I just wanted to say, AWESOME AVATAR!!!"

Thanks dude. You may actually be seeing more of our work soon.

[newbee]

@Elektro

Very clever,  but you must have WAY WAY TOO MUCH TIME on your hands at the moment.....

Regards
Darren

[THEONE]

newbee wrote:
I have already purchased an AmigaOne and will happily continue to use it, regardless of what OS I end up with.

I can use Linux but like it only a little more than Windows (It is difficult to configure, starting to get bloated and the "holy wars" beteen the developers over things like Window managers is resulting in two incompatable code forks).

That being said, If OS4 and Morphos flops I  am happy that I still can use Linus (mac on linux anyone???).

I am a "OS Geek" and just love trying new OSes and believe that the Morphos Q-Box has the potential to develop into a good new OS option.

If Morphos gets released as a "shrink wrap" product I will ahppily purchase it and install it on my A-One.

I think that the community does not need to divide itself, If AROS, Amith*, OS4 and Morphos all survive and continue to be "somwhat" compatable with each others applications it is a good thing.

What I would most like to see however, is for all the various Amiga OS makers to get together and develop "Open APIs" which allows programmers to write their applications once and not need to re-code to support all flavours (recompile if required).

The second best option would be to have AmigaDE ported to all those OS Flazours so that applications can be written once and used universally.

.... Back to the real world ....

I will happily run AmigaOs4, Morphos, Linux (MOL???) and AROS and will make my final decision on which OS I will favour based on which one MEETS MY NEEDS BEST.

I do not understand why these need to be mutually exclusive options.

Regards
Darren

so you purchased an outofdate pc that was overpriced then and now is way overpriced. No wonder why the real amiga community left.

[Ranchu]

Well, I think people are happy to buy an AmigaOne since it is the next Amiga platform (runs AmigaOS 4.0).

I can't see why the hell MorphOS are forcing new users to buy their own platform - cmon they aren't Amiga Inc for Christ sake!!

IMHO they should have made it able to run on the AmigaOne or Mac. What would have been *really* good is if they had made it x86 native - it they had done that I think they would have filled a nice little niche that AmigaOS 4.0 can't fill (at the moment).

Also Pegasos should get an AmigaOS licence - hardware competition has to be better for prices.

Anyway that's my thoughts. I want AmigaOS for x86 dammit

sounds not bad: morphos_in_detail

"... Applications shall run in the Q-Box and make API calls via a message passing system. The API shall not be locked to any single programming language so application developers will not be required to learn a new language. The message passing is also extremely fast, instead of transferring the data in the message, the memory location of the message is remapped to the application where the message is due. Small messages are directly copied as this method is faster for very small amounts of data.

The message passing system used within MorphOS means the system can be highly scalable. The components sending and receiving messages can be running on different processors or even physically different computers and the messages will still get there. A windowing system over a network (a-la The X Windowing System) could be implemented in this manner but the result is likely to be a great deal more responsive. An X Windows compatible wrapper is planned so X Windows applications can be ported but the resulting speed on the desktop will be very different from those using current X Windows implementations.

The distributed capability of Q messaging means clustering will be possible without having to rewrite the entire OS. Applications requiring massive numbers of processors will be relatively simple to write under Q ..."

What plans has Amiga in that direction?

[AmiGR]

Stop spreading uneducated bullshit...
MorphOS' A/Box is FULLY PPC native and
has *MANY* new features. It has everything
you might want except full Memory Protection,
which is NOT possible with the AmigaOS API,
except if you run old progs in a sandbox and the
rest of the os and new apps seperately, EXACTLY
what MorphOS will do with the Q/Box and what
Hyperion plans to do in the future.
The difference is that MorphOS is already ready
for that change, while OS4 is not just yet.

[Alkemyst]

""by AmiGR on 2002/11/17 11:40:18

Stop spreading uneducated bullshit...
MorphOS' A/Box is FULLY PPC native and
has *MANY* new features. It has everything
you might want except full Memory Protection,
which is NOT possible with the AmigaOS API,
except if you run old progs in a sandbox and the
rest of the os and new apps seperately, EXACTLY
what MorphOS will do with the Q/Box and what
Hyperion plans to do in the future.
The difference is that MorphOS is already ready
for that change, while OS4 is not just yet.""
 

Cool! can you give me an URL to the compleat non beta Pegasos/MOS system please.
 
Anything beta means not ready to me & i will never pay for beta knowingly.

[Paul_Gadd]

@AmiGR

It has everything you might want

How about something as standard as a usable and stable/reliable web browser which eveyone seems to forget about.

[Zadoc]

"The hardware dongle issue also makes me lean a bit closer to the MOS camp."

I really don't understand this concern. If you buy OS4 bundled with an AmigaOne why would you care if licensing restrictions are in place to prevent someone else from copying it?

Well, my concern is this: when OS4 was announced, shortly afterwords Elbox was touting their SharkPPC card saying that it would run OS4.  Much later the Pegasos board was announced as well which is a nicer (in my opinion) board than the A1.

Now it seems, mainly due to this 'dongle' issue that SharkPPC's and PegasOs boards (which are hardware compliant) wont be running OS4.  I just don't care for this approach, seeing as the end user will probably have to pay more money for a 'dongled' board due to licensing costs.  If WinXP required dongled x86 boards, there would be an uproar from people having to pay for Microsoft to physically dongle every x86 board on the market.

I am all for some form of anti-piracy measure, but I just think this is the wrong way to go about doing it.

[AmigaMac]

If WinXP required dongled x86 boards, there would be an uproar from people having to pay for Microsoft to physically dongle every x86 board on the market.

Well other than building your own and/or buying a whitebox (brandless) PC, that's exactly what you're doing!  How do you think Microsoft got some of its marketshare... it's forced upon the consumer regardless if Windows is shipped with a branded PC or not!

[AmiGR]

Ok, now reread my posting and rereply...
I said it is ready FOR THAT CHANGE...