Did you just hear Jens roast ColdFusion and Trokia Amy?

[Markus_Bieler]

:roflmao:

Jens just spent 15 minutes or so roasting both projects. He predicted ColdFusion will NEVER ship and Troika is a sad affair and Amy will never work.

You guys listen to that? He didn't even mention his own product, just blasted these 2 projects  :lol:

And??? Who of them is still in business? Have the two projects been successful?

Ché

[Khephren]

Good point Markus....just six years to late!

[Iggy]

Wow! Why dig that turkey up?
And how did you find it?

The frightening thing is we still have hobbyist who want to build Coldfire based hardware, and Freescale is still pushing Coldfire processors hard.

[Lando]

To be fair, it didn't take a rocket scientist to see what Jens said.  This was at the end of '06 when it was already apparent that Troika were a bunch of clowns after their 'two production runs in 2005' were already 18 months late, and regarding the ColdFusion, coldfire's game-killing incompatibilities with the 68k were well documented.  What is more surprising is that anyone thought these products would ever materialise in the first place :-)

[Argo]

Up from the depths of the forums a Zombie rises!
 Brainzzzzzzzzzzz!

[number6]

To be fair, it didn't take a rocket scientist to see what Jens said.  This was at the end of '06 when it was already apparent that Troika were a bunch of clowns after their 'two production runs in 2005' were already 18 months late, and regarding the ColdFusion, coldfire's game-killing incompatibilities with the 68k were well documented.  What is more surprising is that anyone thought these products would ever materialise in the first place :-)

Oh dear.
Since people who were included in that group are involved in current project people seem to swear are going to materialize, you better pray they are -not- clowns.

#6

[Iggy]

Oh dear.
Since people who were included in that group are involved in current project people seem to swear are going to materialize, you better pray they are -not- clowns.

#6

REALLY?
Which projects? You don't have to name individuals, but this sounds interesting.

[WolfToTheMoon]

and regarding the ColdFusion, coldfire's game-killing incompatibilities with the 68k were well documented.  What is more surprising is that anyone thought these products would ever materialise in the first place :-)

Atari Firebee runs 68K-only application with CF68Klib, no problem(see it for yourself on their webpage) ...
I still think it's the most viable solution for any new "classic" add-on hardware when AROS68K matures enough.

[number6]

REALLY?
Which projects? You don't have to name individuals, but this sounds interesting.

Naming the project would be as wrong as naming the individual.
On AW, we have a policy of not posting specifics from irc conversations into forums without permission of those involved in the conversation.
I have no idea what amiga.org policy is on such things, but I'm sure some people here are well aware of whom I refer to.
Should they wish to go into further detail, they might do so.
I will not. My only purpose in mentioning what I did was to speak to the fact that very few people know how many people were involved in those former projects, and why they ended up the way they did.
Unfortunately, as is often the case in Amiga NDA land, the truth will never be known, and I'm sure I'll be accused of trolling just for throwing out the possibility that what the public has seen is not necessarily the truth.
In addition, I've been asked to not drudge up the past, even when it shows a different picture, since these people want to move on with their lives.

Sorry, if that's still too vague for you Iggy, but that's all I feel like saying.

#6

[Iggy]

Naming the project would be as wrong as naming the individual.
On AW, we have a policy of not posting specifics from irc conversations into forums without permission of those involved in the conversation.
I have no idea what amiga.org policy is on such things, but I'm sure some people here are well aware of whom I refer to.
Should they wish to go into further detail, they might do so.
I will not. My only purpose in mentioning what I did was to speak to the fact that very few people know how many people were involved in those former projects, and why they ended up the way they did.
Unfortunately, as is often the case in Amiga NDA land, the truth will never be known, and I'm sure I'll be accused of trolling just for throwing out the possibility that what the public has seen is not necessarily the truth.
In addition, I've been asked to not drudge up the past, even when it shows a different picture, since these people want to move on with their lives.

Sorry, if that's still too vague for you Iggy, but that's all I feel like saying.

#6

I've actually had a few people in the Amiga market request directly that I not disclose something they told me. I've respected their requests and I see no reason to pressure you on this.
Besides, I'm waiting to see if the Atari Firebee will work reasonably well.
The developers have already failed to produce one machine they announced in the past.
And no one that's announced a Coldfire based system to run 68K software has actually moved to full production.
So its wait and see.

[klx300r]

Jens just mentioned he will make an Amiga board for OS4 for next year and Carl Sassenrath said he would like to make Rebol for OS4 if there was hardware...(

oops..hehe just noticed this was an old thread..never mind

[jorkany]

Troika was a joke, but at least they never took anyone's money.