One third support 'some torture'

[Karlos]

I guess we have to agree to disagree on the subject. I think that the death penalty should be an option (note not mandatory) for the courts to decide given the nature of any given case. As it is irreversible, extreme care must be exercised in sentencing.

I don't agree that locking someone up for 50 years then giving them any amount of cash afterwards comes close to making up for the fact that it happened to them, so again life imprisonment should be extremely carefully decided upon.

However I don't think that either punishment should be barred on the grounds that one is less evil than the other. Both are equally bad if a wrongfully convicted person dies, be it by execution or just old age in a cell. Any allusion to one being worse than the other is a comforting denial that we allow ourselves to reduce any sense of guilt on the part of society.

[Agafaster]

I guess we have to agree to disagree on the subject.

good idea, I think we've done this to death already. :horse:

drink ? :lotsacoffee:

[Wilse]

Agafaster wrote:

I guess we have to agree to disagree on the subject.

good idea, I think we've done this to death already. :horse:

Hahaha... fair enough.

drink ? :lotsacoffee: [/quote]

Aye, why not?
:pint:

[Hyperspeed]

Wasn't it Ghandi that said "An eye for an eye leaves us all blind"?

I think when we deal with peadophiles we need to be careful that we are not creating them in the first place.

As has been discussed on another thread, it has been proven that carcinogenic chemicals leak out of soft drink bottles into our food and washing dettergent and other toxins has profound effects on our hormones.

Fumes pumped out of factories can damage the thyroid glands making us fat, paranoid and psychopathic.

Endless filth on television, promiscuous society, drinking, drugs, bullying and corporate greed can drive people to nervous breakdown and become reclusive - leading to bizarre fetishes.

We also create recluses with the welfare system. People don't need to go to work, have pride in themselves or get out of the house. We are breeding a world where people are pampered like the factory farmed animals that are force fed to order.

Oh, and when asked lately what he most feared, the Dalai Lama said "I fear for the welfare of chickens". Odd you may think, but animal welfare and farming are completely linked. Mad cow disease and bird flu H5N1 are both linked to disgusting, filthy conditions. Sheep dip and growth hormones get into the human food chain and alter our consciousness.

The people that the vigilantes should go for are the dirty farmers, vivisectionists and factory owners.

Maybe the ultimate solution to offenders would be like Demolition Man where the person spends 20 years in jail in just minutes of their natural life. A sort of reconditioning.

[Karlos]

Wasn't it Ghandi that said "An eye for an eye leaves us all blind"?

The man was unique. Pity, the world needs a lot more people like him.

[Wilse]

Karlos wrote:

Wasn't it Ghandi that said "An eye for an eye leaves us all blind"?

The man was unique. Pity, the world needs a lot more people like him.

Quoting Prot on an eye for an eye again:

Even your Buddha and your Christ had quite a different vision. But nobody's paid much attention to them, not even your Buddhists and your Christians.

Pity indeed.

Actually, we could do with a few Prots, while we're at it. ;-)

[jkirk]

just to chime in here but i am against capital punishment reason being you don't know if that person got a fair trial or not.

the lyrics to this song describe what i mean.

watch this if you want to see just how screwed up justice can be amazon.