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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 15, 2006, 06:48:27 PM »
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I get your point, but I am not connected to any company and at this point in Amiga history what a company claims is simply not relevant to me.

I guess we kinda understand each other then. I personally dont care wether the OS or box goes under the brand Amiga, as long as it keeps the spirit of the orginal OS.  :-)

I just have a very different definition on the brand name.
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2006, 07:03:22 PM »
Tomas: maybe it could be like amiga (the common noun) and Amiga (the proper noun) :) Like there are many brands which have become common nouns in people's mouths for all products of the category :)
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2006, 07:05:52 PM »
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Aweb is for example already open source and the task of adding modern features to this browser would be significantly less than porting firefox + depedencies.


No, it won't be. You'd need to rewritte whole AWeb engine from scratch to make it CSS, DOM, etc, aware.
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2006, 07:34:09 PM »
Excuse me in advance for going off-topic in this veryyyyaaaawn interesting discussion. I'd just like to ask: how does Sputnik fare as an "Amiga" browser? Can you tell a bit more about its features compared to a modern navigator like Firefox?
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2006, 07:48:05 PM »
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Can you tell a bit more about its features compared to a modern navigator like Firefox?


When it comes to rendering engine capabilities it's more or less at the same level as Firefox (there are some differences but they are rather minor. FF supports more 'odds' standards and is a bit more tollerant for a broken pages, while Sputnik engine (WebCore) has more complete CSS implementation. Both or them can be called a modern engines). When it comes to user-friendlines of browsers itself... Well, Sputnik don't have any at the moment ;-)
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2006, 07:54:30 PM »
Will it accept plugins... like a flash plug in for example...If one ever gets written that is !!
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2006, 08:43:43 PM »
Hi,

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Will it accept plugins... like a flash plug in for example...If one ever gets written that is !!


this question was asked during the demonstration too. The devolper wants to add a plugin-interface for just this purpose.

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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2006, 08:43:43 PM »
DAMNED Multiple post :-(

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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2006, 08:43:43 PM »
EDIT: Multiple post (I hate the current Amiga browsers) :-(

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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2006, 08:43:43 PM »
EDIT: As already said: Multiple post :-(

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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2006, 09:01:35 PM »
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For example I've been playing with Lunapaint on AROS. And that copy of AROS is on a flash memory card that's as big as my fingernail (microSD). I would have never predicted that this was possible when I bought my first Amiga2000 in 1989!!!

Where didi you get it? I've researched in the past for the possibility of booting AROS from usb, and am yet to find a way, could you share it please?
you don't need to Boot from the USB drive. I don't.
here a thread which I asked a few questions to get me started. hopefully, that will also help you. in any case that site is great for asking questions of that type.
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2006, 06:03:40 AM »
All of this discussion of what is and isn't Amiga reminds me of that shareware X11 server for Un/Accelerated Amigas. Never bothered trying it personally.
But it runs X11 with a mostly native Amiga base. Not Unix. As far as I can understand anyway.

Now. A massively theoretical situation here.
Lets say that this layer, or some mythical newer version of it was used as the support framework for Firefox.
Would you say that it is an Amiga browser or a Unix/X11 browser being forced to run on an Classical Amiga platform?

(please ignore memory etc. issues. hypothetical, remember?).

It seems to be more of a semantic argument here.

People have their own beliefs of what may constitute an Amiga. Whether it be a brand, look and feel, platform etc.

Now, people. Play nice.
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2006, 09:30:50 AM »
Wouldn't it be better to try and make all 'plugins' datatypes instead so they can be used anywhere? It's very doable.
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2006, 09:32:38 AM »
@Marcik

Any chance of a screenshot. Sounds exciting.
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2006, 09:51:33 AM »
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Steady wrote:
Any chance of a screenshot. Sounds exciting.


http://www.ppa.pl/khtml/index_en.php
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Re: Sputnik - internet browser
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2006, 10:26:51 AM »
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Wouldn't it be better to try and make all 'plugins' datatypes instead so they can be used anywhere? It's very doable.


Making a Flash-datatype isn't the smartest idea.

About a second post:

Colani1200 already posted a link to main homepage, with some screenshots, but you can also watch a movie from a Sputnik presentation in Germany last week - http://meeting2006.morphosi.net/JakubKassim-Sputnik2.mov
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