What if ?

[leirbag28]

@Doobrey

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Which brings me to ask, what the hell you need that much memory for in an Amiga, especially if you're still using a 68k CPU ?
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For many many things!  For one........leaving your Amiga on For days Rendering Frames into FastRAM!  this will be faster!..............but also as an Example.........I constantly Run Multiple Video Applications at once and load Tons if not Hundreds of Animations into RAM for Rapid display LIVE......If I could load 1000 Animations into RAM I would......I use SCALA MM300 and Elan Performer and Max them Out totally..........then I do some Live VJing whenever I am at an event I was invited to or at the Night Club I used to work at, where I had my Amiga connected to 3 Projectors and probably 20 more Video nmonitors at once for 4 hours straight displaying different animations in realtime to the beat of the music.

Using about 4 applicatins at once.........just imagine if I didnt have to switch to a different app to get different visuals.or never running out of Animations or Video.

@Hyperspeed

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Oh, and a dedicated mouse port and two joypad ports so we don't have to fumble at the back of the machine when playing multiplayer!
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Yeah!  thats what I forgot!    4 joystick ports that each support more than 6 buttons for the Joypad and even Vibration feedback. :-)

[joblow]

hi leirbag28 soon as you have one up and running let me know cos i would love to have the same specs. :idea:  :idea:  :idea:  :idea:

[Dr_Righteous]

The things I'd change would be adding the choice of HSync frequencies, the use of PC floppy drives instead of the custom ones they use that we can't replace now, and of course ChipRAM size.

[B00tDisk]

I'd say - in retrospect, because I'm not drinking the same kool-aid that some of the other posters in this thread are - that the 1200 should've gone out with an 030 on board and a SIMM socket with a 1, 2 or 4mb SIMM therein.

The 4000...hmm, that's a tough call.  PCI hadn't quite arrived when the 4000 hit (PCI debuted in '93, the 4000 in '92).  So in lieu of that, I'd say: better IDE, 16 bit sound and although it seems a small thing, a button battery instead of the barrel battery that seems to cause so many problems these days.  

[mr_a500]

@leirbag28

After seeing some of your recent posts, I can't get this Simpsons quote out of my head: "You... live in a world of make-believe, with leprechauns and magic frogs in tiny little hats."

I would have been happy if the A1200 came out AS IS, but in 1990 or 1991. That could have kept Commodore alive. For 1993/94, the Amiga should have had 24bit colour, 16bit sound and 8Mb chip as standard.

Yeah! thats what I forgot! 4 joystick ports that each support more than 6 buttons for the Joypad and even Vibration feedback.

Vibration feedback??! Vibration feedback makes me physically sick. Thank GOD the Amiga didn't have joypads with vibration feedback.

[HellCoder]

Touch screen support

[dammy]

AGA chipset on a PCI card so it could be updated as C= developed new gfx chipsets to update the A4K.  That would have also open the x86 market for Amiga products giving C= more market share.

Dammy

[AJCopland]

Original A1200 should have shipped with 68030, 68882 and at least 4mb ram onboard.

But why oh why did no-one make a Voodoo based trapdoor accelerator for it as soon as it was released? It would have made it just slightly faster than the PS1 :-(

[AJCopland]

Hmm the question was what would i want in it "today".

I'd have to say something like Oli_hd's Coldfire accelerator, and a PPC with gfx accelerator. Integrated ethernet and USB would be awesome.

I am of course thinking along these lines due to the MiniMig, NatAmi and Clone-A projects :-D

[vr00mie]

A1200
68020 -> 68040/68060
2mb chip -> 32/64mb chip
DD Drive -> DVD
IDE -> SATA
Serial, pralell, mouse, joystick -> USB
AGA -> AAA? I don't know. 1280x1024 32 bit would be nice...
PCMCIA -> *insert new and exciting I/O port here*

A4000
Zorro -> PCI-E + PCI (ok ok ok, keep one or two zorro slots then!)
AGA -> No onboard graphics (well, keep the AGA then)
IDE -> SATA + SCSI
Serial, pralell, mouse, joystick -> USB

[SamuraiCrow]

AJCopland wrote:
Original A1200 should have shipped with 68030, 68882 and at least 4mb ram onboard.

But why oh why did no-one make a Voodoo based trapdoor accelerator for it as soon as it was released? It would have made it just slightly faster than the PS1 :-(

I agree on the first count, but as for the Voodoo trapdoor, I would have to say that you'd need Picasso96 or Cybergraphix to use it with.  I would've been content with the AKIKO standard on all AGA systems instead of just the CD32.

My solution to 3d at the time was to abolish texture maps since Amiga chipset accelerated polygons were strictly pattern-filled. :lol:

On the second count I would have preferred a faster Copper since that would give us chunky graphics for free without needing the AKIKO chip.

[leirbag28]

@mr-a500

I just happen to dream Really big!  thats not even half the picture. :-)

I also belive in a good product and not putting out crap...and people accepting it because they at least take what they can get. You know what Im saying,.....Im sure you would want an Amiga with the Specs I mentioned at that time wouldnt you?

Im just saying what I would have done if I owned the company :-)

@Hellcoder

Amiga Already supports Touchscreen.........Ever heard of SCALA? ever heard of the SCALA ECHO EE100?  welll I have one and SCALA supports touch screen totally :-)

[AJCopland]

Ah well i was thinking more of some of the all-in-one graphics solutions that existed for the Voodoo accelerator rather than relying on pass-through cables etc :-D

Still the point stands that with just a small cost increase to the initia,machine, and post-purchase gfx accelerator we could have had machines that were quite capable at the time. cest la vie.

Maybe we can cram some of these goodies into the MiniMig when we get the chance :insane:

[Generale]

Ignoring the whole "but why?" factor, and not going for things that are available as addons anyway:

* Faster BUS & chipset.
Fast enough to reduce wait states as much as possible for everything accessing RAM.
It would also make supporting a higher scanrates for graphics output less hungry. Couple that with more addressable graphics ram (and of course buslines, registers etc to suit), nice high res and colourdepth at high refreshrates.

Other things would be nice, but they are usually already there.

I'm interested in the FPGA based Amigas in development like many others are.
It would be really nice to have each chip core available separately. If it were I'd be trying my hardest to make an FPGA board (or a much simpler CPLD board if the logic fits) to shove in. And if it worked then worry about trying to change it.

[T3000]

Taller base feet, then it would make a great step stool. :lol:

Come on dudes...  get a life. The machine is no longer viable by todays standards. Nothing but a tinker toy now, but if it does what you want at the moment, then there's not much reason to want it to do more.

No flames please. just my nickles worth...

[Hyperspeed]

by T3000:
Taller base feet, then it would make a great step stool.

Come on dudes... get a life. The machine is no longer viable by todays standards. Nothing but a tinker toy now, but if it does what you want at the moment, then there's not much reason to want it to do more.

No flames please. just my nickles worth...

Asthmatics might want to leave the room about now...