The great moderation experiment begins

[amigamad]

I never visit ann so i dont know how you got that .www.amigart.com is the only other site i go to often .and i cant post because im not sighned up. :-?

[artman]

Seem's to me everything is the same as it was, a great place to visit, good folk's to talk to and exchange idea's and info with.  Don't see any reason why this should change with what seems to be a minor thing.  I think Wayne and his "staff" are doing an admirable job, one that not many of us has the time or inclination to do too.  They should be applauded!  Here!  Here!

[Herewegoagain]

I don't get it. First, you complain because of the lack of moderation. When I realized that I was the only listed moderator, I fixed the problem. Now you want to complain because there are too many moderators when not a single issue has arisen?

Well, I think it is a good thing Wayne.  Some do not even post here anymore because there were no moderations occuring before.  I've probably been just as much to blame in the past, and a couple of times even expected to see some of my posts moderated, but never did.    Sometimes it's hard not to vent your frusterations.  But most of us know when we've overstepped our bounds, and usually never step back in to say "sorry".  I say, welcome to more strict  moderations, but those OT's are going to be a full time job.  :-D

[JoannaK]

AmigaMad: well there surely is someone with same nick and similar style in there..  So either you have a fan or you have damn loysy memory.

[amigamad]

The thing with ann though is anyone can post you dont have to sighn up i could call myself homer simpson and submit post its not hard to use the same nickname as someone else when you dont need to register to use it. :-)

I come to amiga org to get away from the crap on ann  only time i go there is if there is no amiga news on any other site for the day and thats hardly ever . :-o

[Rodney]

Nice idea. I just hope what happened or is happening on OSnews does not occure here. I hope this idea of yours works Wayne, for the future of Amiga.org.

[scorchio]

I have nothing to clean up just fed up of the same arguments and lies wich people make up

Hi there... I haven't posted for a while, cause I really haven't been motivated to! But.... this thread has...

Wayne - top idea big man, moderating is a good idea, and hopefully it will be used in the spirit is is meant to!

Amigamad... listen up chief... I see what you're saying, but comments like "no more free speach" is just ridiculous, the whole point is we remove the rants of people who are unwilling to tolerate other people.

If you want to continue in this mannor, then you will become one of these "unproductive" people ruining the community.

Hell, I'm fed up of the same arguments, but if members are not going to use common sense, then why bother.

FINAL COMMENT: A BIT OF SOLIDARITY FOR WAYNE AND THE OTHER WEBMASTERS/MODERATORS - THEY DON'T DO THIS FOR THE GOOD OF THEIR HEALTH!

All the best,

Scott


Glasgow Amiga Users Group

I don't get it. First, you complain because of the lack of moderation. When I realized that I was the only listed moderator, I fixed the problem. Now you want to complain because there are too many moderators when not a single issue has arisen?

Welcome to the wonderful world of moderation. No matter what you do will be criticised by some people.

[T_Bone]

amigamad wrote:
I never visit ann so i dont know how you got that .www.amigart.com is the only other site i go to often .and i cant post because im not sighned up. :-?

This isn't you then?

> Posted by amigamad (200.246.46.131) on 17-May-2003 20:26:57
>
> Wayne Hunt over at Amiga.org will only allow anti Amiga
> comments and deletes comments against Genesi, i thought
> that might cheer you MorphOS blind zealots up.

If you're saying that's not you, then we should remove that comment too, as obviously it's an imposter, right?
As a matter of fact, if you never visit there, like you say, then all your posts there should be removed as name spoofing is a violation of ann.lu's posting rules.

[SilvrDrgn]

redrumloa wrote:

Wayne wrote:
@Amigamad

I am about sick of you and your accusations.  Keep pushing and the only thing not welcomed here will be you.

I second that, it's pathetic. Give it a rest.

I "third" that.  Geesh, what's the deal?!?!

[Glaucus]

@Wayne,

This seems like a good plan to me. The idea of keeping things open and up front is a good one. The only concern is - like some have pointed out - where moderators may disagree on a particular issue. I would assume in such a case it would be filtered upwards to the web masters and ultimately to you. At any rate, I wouldn't worry too much about those who are "complaining" now as all plans must come under some form of scrutiny, and the mere existence of open questioning and discussion is a sign of a fairly moderated forum all on it's own!

  - Mike

[Glaucus]

amigamad wrote:
So no freedom of speech or opinions here anymore.

I see no validation for this comment. If anything I think things will be MORE fair. Generally speaking distributing power lessens the potential for corruption. The question really isn't how many moderators are enough, but how well are they moderating? So far I've seen little reason to be upset with the moderators, even though I've been invloved in some "heated" discussions with some of them. I've even had some posts moderated and even though I wasn't thrilled to see them moderated they were right to do so as I did infact break the rules (posting gory scenes of dead Iraqi children from the Iraq invasion etc.) .

The simple fact is I know I can get away with more crap on Amiga.org then I can on other forums that I visit. Some forums don't even allow "heated" discussions and absolutely no political discussions. Overall I think Amiga.org is pretty lax, I'm not sure what people are complaining about!

Of course, if the moderators let the power get to their heads then they'll be hearing from me!  ;-) And in the end it's the users who will ultimately decide. If they moderate Amiga.org to oblivion then I will simply move on to another forum (or just spend more time on more useful "realworld" things like fixing things around the house, cleaning up, yard work, going to the beach, working out, etc. ;-) ).

  - Mike

[Glaucus]

Perhaps to calm some concerns Amiga.org could implement some official appeal process? Perahps this might generate too much work, but the idea would be if something is moderated and causes some contraversy, perhaps it can be reviewed by the higher-ups? Just a thought. People like to provide feedback even if they know what they did is wrong. In otherwords, no one likes to be moderated even if they know what they posted was unacceptable. Of course this could be abused, but it makes people feel more like equals and is more friendly-like. Just a thought.

  - Mike

[Targhan]

@redrumloa and @SilvrDrgn

I'm not sure that our squeaky-clean Mr. Sheen understands that the only thing that has really changed is that the moderators are listed as such.  Also, it looked to me that the rules of moderation were only re-affirmed.

@Mr. Sheen, nothing is really changing other than, (at lease in my opinion) credit is being given where it's due.  I expect, and sometimes enjoy, a bit of tounge-in-cheek humor.  I wouldn't worry much about the loss of free speech

:-)

[amigamad]

@T_Bone

no it isnt me thats not even my ip address as for all my comments i dont post anything on ann or any other site.ive just found that this person is online by pinging there computer so im do a who is search on it . :-)

[amigamad]

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