Microsoft = Big Brother

[Tomas]

motrucker wrote:
I am shocked at the number of people who don't even know how to really delete a file from Windoze (XP or otherwise).
One thing - NEVER use IE: it is full of holes even with SP2! Use Opera or Firefox. Use AVG Pro AND Spybot S&D and spyware blaster (maybe add Ad-Aware too)  then;
Learn to work with the registry! and your fairly safe.
You all do use good firewalls, right?

You apparantly are not getting the point. The point is that microsoft has done alot to stop the average user from deleting or even finding some of these files. Why should we have to hack the registery, boot up windows in safe mode and so on just to delete information regarding my browser history? Why is it not actually removed when you tell IE to remove it?

I just wonder why the hell microsoft have made it as hard as possible to delete something simple as a log. It apparantly is not a bug since they have still not done anything about it after so many years.

[cojones]

motrucker wrote:
It apparantly is not a bug since they have still not done anything about it after so many years.

It's a feature, as explained in the first link I gave. http://blogs.msdn.com/wndp/archive/2006/08/04/WinInet_Index_dat.aspx and related posts have details on how index.dat is changing in IE7. E.g:

Well the first thing is that IE made the interface for clearing up these files much simpler with “Cover My Tracks”.

[stopthegop]

...IE made the interface for cleaning up these files much simpler with "Cover my Tracks"

That must be part of the "Just Trust Us" service pack.

[mongo]

motrucker wrote:

One thing - NEVER use IE: it is full of holes even with SP2! Use Opera or Firefox.

A semi-annual Internet threat report compiled by Symantec found 38 Internet Explorer browser flaws reported in the first half of 2006, 47 in Firefox, and 12 in Safari.

Firefox isn't any more secure than IE, it just hasn't been targeted as much, but that is changing with its increased popularity.

I'm sure the same thing would be said about Opera if enough people were actually using it.

[motrucker]

@Mr a500;

I read the entire post. If you disagree, fine, but I still stand behind what I said.
IF you know how to set up Windows XP SP2, it works quite well!     {Sensless overhead? Wouldn't be microsoft if it didn't)
Macs are indeed some what better (Now that they're intel CPUed, I'm not as sure) BUT they cost too damn much!

[motrucker]

cojones wrote:

motrucker wrote:
It apparantly is not a bug since they have still not done anything about it after so many years.

It's a feature, as explained in the first link I gave. http://blogs.msdn.com/wndp/archive/2006/08/04/WinInet_Index_dat.aspx and related posts have details on how index.dat is changing in IE7. E.g:

Well the first thing is that IE made the interface for clearing up these files much simpler with “Cover My Tracks”.

Do NOT attribute quotes to me that I didn't make.

[Minuous]

The justification given in that link is completely unconvincing.

Things they haven't explained:

(a) why it is hidden.
(b) why it is not cleared when the user wants it to be.
(c) how it makes browsing any better.
(d) why the file format is secret.

[stopthegop]

@Moderators

Minuous wrote:
The justification given in that link is completely unconvincing.

Things they haven't explained:

(a) why it is hidden.
(b) why it is not cleared when the user wants it to be.
(c) how it makes browsing any better.
(d) why the file format is secret.

There was an item "(e)".  Why was that cen$ored out?  Minuous was only speaking the truth about M$.  

[Minuous]

Actually in this case it was removed by me, I didn't want to give them any excuse to delete the post, as they seem to have excessively heavy-handed moderation here, and one of my other posts on another thread was already deleted.

But basically point (e) was a general statement on the lameness and unethical behaviour of Microfilth.

[Hyperspeed]

The Netconnect package for Amiga is fairly dubious too. It logs times, URLs and odd files in RAM:ENV/...

It checks your file versions on startup and sends data to a remote server on exit (usually the stuff by Oliver Wagner).

Since Active Technologies went bust (their website fee wasn't paid and they vanished) I have felt a little uneasy about using this to connect to the web.

And who is verifying the Amiga web software for backdoors? AmiTCP is based on code from the Berkley University isn't it? Some ancient linux code hastily ported to Amiga?

:inquisitive: