Fun with MorphOS

[Blade]

humppa:

Well, I hope the Ambient Devs won't kill me, however I can give you one of my compiles I do from time
to time. It has debug disabled, but e.g. Icon hover effects enabled (this is one reason I do my own compiles)
However, before you download it, please note this: This is *no* official Release from the Ambient Team, so please don't
even think about to ask them if something went wrong with this particular Ambient Version! As I can't code, just accidently
know how to type make into a shell, I can't help you either. If it works for you, fine, If not, bad luck then.
Also, to avoid this archive beeing linked and spread widely, It will be online only for the next 24 hours, so get it while
it's (almost) hot (its a snapshot from 20.9.06)
Again, please don't ask for support. You can get the archive here

[humppa]

@Blade
Thanks so much!  :-)

[AmigaMance]

Thanks, I will try that. Is there any known difference in stability between the two different MUI4 alpha versions (2005 and 06/2006)?

 I don't know if there are any actual differences in stability, but from what i've heard the latest MUI4 causes some MUI apps to misbehave, not to crash.

[humppa]

@Blade

This version is working perfectly so far! It's the first 1.43 compile that doesn't crash when changing between "List" and "Icon-mode". Further, speedwise it's great on my PowerUP-install since debugging is disabled. Again, thanks a lot!  :-)

[Blade]

Well, thank the Ambient Team, they did a great job so far, I just did a compile which isn't exactly
high Science. However it is nice to hear it works for you Oh and dunno whether Ambient allready requires
the latest latest Mui Version (I doubt it) you may want to try the official Mui Alpha Release from last year or so,
simply because it is IIRC also a non debug Version which should be noticable faster on a Power Up System.

[AmigaMance]

you may want to try the official Mui Alpha Release from last year or so,
simply because it is IIRC also a non debug Version which should be noticable faster on a Power Up System.

 I don't know if this means anything or not, but if you version the new mui systems files, you will see a DEBUG indication. Also, they are much bigger in size.
 I assume that we are talking about this version?:
 http://www.sasg.com/mui/mui4alpha_mos_20050714.lha

[humppa]

I don't know if this means anything or not, but if you version the new mui systems files, you will see a DEBUG indication.

It's actually also visible from MUI-Prefs when you select the "About" menu (DEBUG in red letters).

I assume that we are talking about this version?: http://www.sasg.com/mui/mui4alpha_mos_20050714.lha

Yes, that's the last non-debug version that I know of. Actually, I happen to have different newer versions, but I think they are all DEBUG if I am not mistaken. The 20060605 surely is DEBUG.

[AmigaMance]

@hummpa

 Ok.

 I have just installed Ambient 1.43 and i find it good. At startup, it consumes only (about) an extra MB from version 1.41.
 I haven't test it for CPU usage but it feels almost as fast as v1.41 was. The system monitor reports a _significant_ increase in CPU usage, though, but perhaps it's because it has a graph in this version and the graph steals some CPU cycles.

 Btw, i have found that directories which has an old Amiga icon are not clickable! You can not double-click them, move them or anything. You have to do a RMB click and select "open". Do you have this problem?

EDIT: corrections

[humppa]

Btw, i have found that directories which has an old Amiga icon are not clickable! You can double-click them, move them or anything. You have to do a RMB and select "open". Do you have this problem?

Yes, I have the same problem with old WB2.04-style icons (e.g. the drawer of Sysinfo). Are you using the Ambient-version that Blade posted? You *can* double-click those icons, but you have to click something like 20 pixels above, then it works. I wonder if later Ambient-builds have the same problem.

[AmigaMance]

 Yes, i'm using blade's compile and it probably has to do with its "Icon hover effects". The problem doesn't occur with other versions.

[Fab12]

This offset bug for click area (easily visible with old magicwb icons) was recently introduced after some changes in icon layout code and has just been fixed.

What's the problem with icon-hovering ?

By the way, mui4 from july 2005 was also a debug version, so i'd suggest you stick to latest version as many bugs were fixed since.

[humppa]

This offset bug for click area (easily visible with old magicwb icons) was recently introduced after some changes in icon layout code and has just been fixed.

Cool. I would just love to have a non-debug compile of that. ;-)

By the way, mui4 from july 2005 was also a debug version, so i'd suggest you stick to latest version as many bugs were fixed since.

Really? There is no debug-info in the Prefs and the file-sizes are a lot smaller. Is there any non-debug version that became available after July at all?

edit: according to this thread you are right. I really wish there would be at least one non-debug version every few months. Don't forget the PowerUp users! ;-)