Fun with MorphOS

[pVC]

"DOpus 5 has its own icon library which cannot handle PNG Icons if you run DOpus as Workbench Replacement."

Yes, but what's that patch mentioned?

[Matt_H]

So it turns out that my networking problem wasn't actually a problem.

Even though I couldn't ping anything outside my university network, web access works fine. I just double checked my A4000 and it can't ping anything either.

So I'll chalk this one up to "Campus I.T. Being Annoying" and start to get this system operational :-)

[motorollin]

So how are you getting on with Ambient? Have you tried the more recent version?

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moto

[humppa]

So how are you getting on with Ambient? Have you tried the more recent version?

Is it wise to update Ambient on a MOS PUP installation? I read somewhere that it might crawl on BPPC since it still has debugging mode enabled.

[r-tea]

@ itix

autosort = false

Got this set already.
I noticed that this often freezes the whole system if I try drag an icon precisely (a couple pixels only). I'll put it on the Bugtracker soon.

System info in screen title bar doesnt really belong to Ambient and I
dont see any reason why this should be limited to Ambient screen only.

Hmmm... on classic system Workbench screen is which it's just limited to and (I assume) we (all Amiga users) allways found it quite handy. Switching screens was allways so fast end easy then I never lack this on other screens.
But I'll not object to implement it in MOS for all screens.  :-)

[Matt_H]

@ motorollin

Having a bit of trouble with newer Ambient. I think it's an MUI problem. Could you point me to the current MUI beta? I think the one I have is too old.

EDIT: Nevermind. Was using too old an Ambient snapshot. Everything's looking good now.

[motorollin]

@humppa
He's using a Peg, not PUP.

@Matt_H
What do you think of Ambient now you have updated it?

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moto

[humppa]

@motorollin

He's using a Peg, not PUP.

I know, i know, but I just thought I could jump in with a little OT question, sorry. ;-)

So could anyone tell me if the Ambient nightly builds still have debugging enabled? If not, I would give it a try and update.

[motorollin]

Oh ok sorry, I thought you were asking on behalf of Matt_H. I have a very recent Ambient nightly build installed on my PegII and it has debug menus. Not sure whether that means it is actually debugging or not. It would be nice if this was an option!

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moto

[humppa]

I have a very recent Ambient nightly build installed on my PegII and it has debug menus. Not sure whether that means it is actually debugging or not. It would be nice if this was an option!

I read somewhere that nightly builds might have Debugging enabled, which slows down Ambient. This shouldn't be much of a problem on a fast Pegasos 2, but it might seriously affect performance on a rather slow BPPC.
From what I read, the only possibility is to do a manual recompile without debugging.
Does somebody have some more info on this?

[itix]

Nightly builds have debug enabled. To get rid of debug one must change debug flag in source code (config.h) and recompile.

[humppa]

itix wrote:
Nightly builds have debug enabled. To get rid of debug one must change debug flag in source code (config.h) and recompile.

Thanks for the info, itix! I think i'll better get 1.43.0 CVS instead then. Is it advisable to install that also on the Powerup version of MOS?

[Crumb]

@Itix:

Regarding Ambient we are interested to know how it could be made better

Could you add AmigaOS3.9 like shortcuts? there's a lot of people used to the old shortcuts. Or at least make it user configurable.

[itix]

@humppa

Thanks for the info, itix! I think i'll better get 1.43.0 CVS instead then. Is it advisable to install that also on the Powerup version of MOS?

Honestly I dont know. It is probably better than ancient Ambient SE on MorphOS CD - more features and less bugs. It is just that nightly builds have even less bugs and more features at expense of debug stuff.

Btw where you got your nickname?

@crumb

Could you add AmigaOS3.9 like shortcuts?

What is AmigaOS 3.9 like shortcut?

[itix]

I noticed that this often freezes the whole system if I try drag an icon precisely (a couple pixels only). I'll put it on the Bugtracker soon.

Hmm... for these kind of things we need a debug log...

[humppa]

Honestly I dont know. It is probably better than ancient Ambient SE on MorphOS CD - more features and less bugs.

Alright, I think I will give it a try then. The version from the PUP-ISO is lacking many features that are hopefully introduced in later versions (e.g. easy snapshot and copy functions for icons and something like a "refresh" function by right-clicking). But since I am a MOS-noob, I also could have just missed a way to activate them.

Btw where you got your nickname?

I bought it from the crazy Finns. :-P