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Offline that_punk_guy

Win2000 Paranoia
« on: May 15, 2003, 10:09:14 PM »
Does anyone know what the "Services and Controller app" in Windows 2000 Pro is for and why it needs to access the internet so frequently?  ;-)
 

Offline Tesral

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2003, 10:11:44 PM »
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that_punk_guy wrote:
Does anyone know what the "Services and Controller app" in Windows 2000 Pro is for and why it needs to access the internet so frequently?  ;-)


It is Paranoia when they reall ARE out to control your life?
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Offline that_punk_guy

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2003, 10:17:51 PM »
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Tesral wrote:
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that_punk_guy wrote:
Does anyone know what the "Services and Controller app" in Windows 2000 Pro is for and why it needs to access the internet so frequently?  ;-)


It is Paranoia when they reall ARE out to control your life?


...not sure if I should "lol" or not  :-D
 

Offline seer

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2003, 10:32:26 PM »
IIRC it's needed for your internet connection... If I'm not mistaken it allows your PC to use the DNS servers

.edit. I do think you need it to connect to the Internet, but it may not need to accept incomming connections. Anyway, try a search in groups at google.
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Offline KennyR

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2003, 10:32:55 PM »
Block the outgoing connections using a firewall. Then you won't need to be paranoid anymore. Until you hear the screech of tires outside your house, that is...
 

Offline JoannaK

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2003, 10:33:46 PM »
Welll.. depends alot of what service packs you have installed to it..   WIn2k SP3 has a majoritely same Spywares included as windows XP.. So if you have that installed, it's definitely no longer only imagination..   :-o
 

Offline DethKnight

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2003, 11:23:12 PM »
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WIn2k SP3 has........


ditto to that
Am I EVER glad I took the time to read that EXTENDED EULA crap attatched to W2KSP3

whew

not that it matter when I only use W2K for games only and never for internet
of course this may change depending upon the SCO lawsuit
die SCO die
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Offline that_punk_guy

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2003, 01:58:09 AM »
thanks guys  :-)

well with outgoing connections blocked I get no web access,  although i havent noticed any problems with blocking incoming connections yet... P2P's working okay...

Said Service Pack has been removed  ;-) heres hoping my installation is not still tainted 'cause I'm *so* not installing the damn thing again  :-P

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Offline Ilwrath

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2003, 02:44:28 AM »
Man...  I tell you what....  I finally got sick of the daily battle against spyware and went with RedHat 9 on my main PC.  I can't say it's been totally painless, but with a few annoyances, I haven't booted into Windows in 2 weeks for anything other than a few games.  I'm thinking of blocking the Windows side of the PC at the firewall -- no access, at all.  

It really seems to be the only way to secure it, anymore.  It's hard enough setting firewall rules and patches to keep the 5kr1p7 kiddies out, but then you add in having to keep it from phoning home all the damn time...  It just isn't worth it...  ;-)  I'll put up with technical glitches, but when I have to fight my OS over politics, I draw the line.  Make mine "Free as in speech," please.  I've had enough financial and moral bankruptcy for a while.
 

Offline Hooligan_DCS

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2003, 05:06:32 AM »
@KennyR

Block the outgoing connections using a firewall. Then you won't need to be paranoid anymore. Until you hear the screech of tires outside your house, that is...
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There was one server at work that did exactly that. Win2k wanted to update itself by connecting to internet, causing over 1000 hits to firewall per second.
Lermme tell you, the firewall's log was very booooooring to read :-)

Would never accept 2k here at home.. I almost compare it to Millennium. Yach.  
 

Offline Tesral

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2003, 05:47:44 AM »
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Ilwrath wrote:
Man...  I tell you what....  I finally got sick of the daily battle against spyware and went with RedHat 9 on my main PC.  I can't say it's been totally painless but then you add in having to keep it from phoning home all the damn time...  It just isn't worth it...  ;-)  I'll put up with technical glitches, but when I have to fight my OS over politics, I draw the line.  Make mine "Free as in speech," please.  I've had enough financial and moral bankruptcy for a while.


I have a new server on the desk.  Well half a server, I'm still building the thing.  I fought with windows long enough I tossed it and installed SuES Linux 8.2.  Yes, I have a steep learning curve ahead of me, but I feel cleaner and freer about a computer than I have since I hammered Amigastine back into existence.  Free as speech sounds like music to my ears.

I *will not* pay the Microsoft tax ever again.
I *will not* buy from any dealer that forces me to pay for an OS I do not want and do not need.
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Offline carls

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2003, 07:25:03 AM »
What exactly does this Service send? What ports is it using? Turns out I'm running SP3...
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Offline duesi

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2003, 08:36:04 AM »
I use AntiSpy XP 3.71 to modify the registry.
Works nice with Win2000 SP3 or Windows XP.
But the best choice is don't use Windows :-)


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Offline that_punk_guy

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2003, 09:47:49 AM »
Currently just a few things tie me to Windows:

1. Nero Cover Designer
2. Yahoo Messenger (I couldn't for the life of me get the Linux version installed)
3. Cakewalk Home Studio

Other than that, a few games and video codecs....

I never could get Neutrino or BeOS working, and I can't use Unix 'cause I only have an IQ of 111  :-D

I found xp-AntiSpy, but it's not really making me feel much better about the state of the world  :-)  

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Offline that_punk_guy

Re: Win2000 Paranoia
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2003, 10:01:07 AM »
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carls wrote:
What exactly does this Service send? What ports is it using? Turns out I'm running SP3...


ZoneAlarm says:
"Services and Controller app: Listening to port(s): UDP: 1027"

And this is from the ZoneAlarm log after I blocked outgoing connections:
"Services and Controller app was unable to obtain permission for connecting to the Internet (194.168.8.100:DNS); access was denied.,N/A"