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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2006, 03:46:40 AM »
@hrlaser

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Re: Amigazone versus Merlancia
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2006, 04:02:43 AM »
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This is pure and utter horsesh*t. The system AmigaZone runs on was corrupted by a worm.
Dont take it so personal. I think quite a few posts were partly meant as a joke.
Nice to hear that the site is alive though.

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The Amiga "community" has unfortunately degenerated into a tiny group of people have nothing better to do with their lives than spead rumors and try to destroy reputations. This is sad, sadistic, unproductive, and unnecessary. Do you enjoy torturing small animals too?

I think this is a bit cruel said of you... I hope you are just having a bad day, as i really doubt any of these posts were made just to bash amigazone.

Most of us do infact still care about both the Amiga platform and the community including websites and such.
 

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Re: Amigazone
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2006, 04:59:18 AM »
Having a bad day? Yeah, you could say that. I run a service that's had 99.9999% uptime for ten years staight. You think I wanted to spend a holiday weekend dealing with this? I've been on the phone for hours and now I have to come here and do rumor control.

The service will be back up when we have it repaired. I've now said this what, half a dozen times? So that's enough of that.

Posts meant as a joke? No, I think there are truly a number of sick jerks out there who'd like nothing better than to see the system go down and stay down. They take some kind of glee in it. Well they'll have to get their rocks off somewhere else.

When the Amiga was born there were commercial ($pay$) areas on Compuserve, Genie, Delphi, and Bix supporting it. The Web didn't exist. Sites like Amiga.org didn't exist. You had dial-up commercia services, kitchen table BBSes, and Usenet and that was basically it and AmigaZone was competing with some huge industry players. All of them are gone now and AmigaZone was still chugging along.
 
I was writing articles for Amiga magazines when a lot of the people reading boards like this were in diapers. I've been in this business a very long time.

Hey, sorry if my tone sounded mean but I will NOT put up with unfounded, baseless rumors foisted by twits with an agenda. Meanwhile, I have work to do.

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2006, 05:42:00 AM »
Does Harv Laser know what happened to Ryan Czerwinski? Can he tell us what became of the Merlancia/Amigazone merger situation and how it affected Amigazone if at all? I just want to know what the deal is.
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Re: whatsideal?
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2006, 07:14:34 AM »
Hey, Mr. Harv, I'm curious too. I bought an OS3.9 cd from Merlancia a short time before they disappeared off the face of the earth, and because I couldn't use it, returned it, but never got my money back. What the heck happened to them?
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Re: Amigazone versus Merlancia
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2006, 05:37:43 PM »
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(a bunch of nonsense followed by).. a historic site (followed by more nonsense)..


The files are safely backed up in at least half a dozen different places. No one killed anything. See my postings above.

This site, Amiga.org has gone down for periods. Aminet has gone down. eBay crashes. Name a site that doesn't have problems from time to time. This is modern technology and technology isn't perfect.

AmigaZone is under repair. The files are all safely stored.
my disgust, hatred and revoltion is directed ONLY at Ryan Czerwinski. and certainly NOT at AmigaZone or you. That piece of fecal matter certainly tried hard to mess up various members of the amiga community. I'm VERY glad to hear that those historic files are safe!! VERY, Very glad!

I had heard that the toad Ryan Czerwinski had let the payment for the servers or the provider lapse which resulted in the deletion of said files. And I heard this some time ago. Obviously, you took care to keep backups - good for you and good for everyone else! Keep up the good work and even though working over this weekend may be annoying I think the entire Amiga Community appreciates your hard work and sacrifices over the years.

There's plenty of bad things this ryan creature has done that hell will freeze over before anyone "forgives" him for his hubris and stupidity.
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Re: Amigazone versus Merlancia
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2006, 06:18:38 PM »
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I had heard that [insult deleted] had let the payment for the servers or the provider lapse which resulted in the deletion of said files. And I heard this some time ago.


I don't care how long ago you heard it or from whom you heard it. You heard wrong. Payment never lapsed. Not once. Not ever. Files were never deleted. Even if payment did ever lapse (which it never did) the provider wouldn't have deleted the files anyway. They just would have taken it off their network. It was never off their network. Not once. Not ever. Like I said, 99.9999% uptime. The only time the system ever went down in ten years on its current hardware was to perform software updates.

You bought into bullsh*t lies from sick lowlifes with an agenda, and that's all I have to say about it.

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Re: Amigazone versus Merlancia
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2006, 07:23:03 PM »
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cecilia not quite wrote:
I had heard that [insult deleted]......


"[insult deleted]", hmmmmm, interesting :inquisitive:
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Re: Amigazone versus Merlancia
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2006, 08:10:14 PM »
@hrlaser

I see, "worm" on FreeBSD didn't sound that likely in the first place. Yet, any ISP running Apache 1.3.26 deserves to have boot applied to their behind.

Anyway, I'd recommend taking the chill pill. I don't think everyone's out to get you.
 

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Re: Amigazone
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2006, 09:52:48 PM »
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Having a bad day? Yeah, you could say that. I run a service that's had 99.9999% uptime for ten years staight. You think I wanted to spend a holiday weekend dealing with this?

I am sorry about that.
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Posts meant as a joke? No, I think there are truly a number of sick jerks out there who'd like nothing better than to see the system go down and stay down. They take some kind of glee in it. Well they'll have to get their rocks off somewhere else.

There are of course some people that are like that, but i honestly believe the majority here are nice. What bugged me is that your post came of in a way that sounded like you were saying that most of the amiga community were like that.
 

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Re: Amigazone
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2006, 09:19:47 AM »
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What bugged me is that your post came of in a way that sounded like you were saying that most of the amiga community were like that.


I would have thought that a "nope, we're still up. just having a bit of a kafuffle with the servers" would have sufficed as far as AZ being alive was concerned.
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Re: Amigazone
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2006, 08:24:17 PM »
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I would have thought that a "nope, we're still up. just having a bit of a kafuffle with the servers" would have sufficed as far as AZ being alive was concerned.
I found that reaction Quite weird! If I was a paranoid person I'd feel as if the poster was really Ryan Czerwinski or his mother. Why act upset about my dislike of Ryan C? (AND remove so-called insults about Ryan). No one insulted AmigaZone. No one. :-?

I'm not going indulge any paranoia because that would take energy. But those posts - more than one! - sure seem odd. Very very odd!


And the criminal actions of the Czerwinski's are known. A personal friend has confided details about what has happened to him. There's no "conspiracy" theorising going on here.
I'm not one bit sorry about what I said about him here or anywhere else.
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Re: Amigazone
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2006, 08:47:11 PM »
@harv

I have no idea about AmigaZone or your workings.  But if you caught a worm, I would reconsider my OS of choice there and go with a very stable UNIX environment that is immune to such nonsense, Especially if I had "poured my heart and soul" into a project for some 21 years of my life.  This is not meant to be an insult or any other form of put down, just stating an opinion so that perhaps in the future you will not have to spend time repairing a server :-)

Then again, I have NO love for Microsoft at all ;-)

Anyhow, a nice FreeBSD (would definitely be my first choice) or Linux server running Apache 2.0x would be great for a site of your nature.

Hope that you view this as constructive criticism and not a put down... because it is wholly meant to help!

Take care,

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Re: Amigazone
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2006, 09:01:46 PM »
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Re: Amigazone
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2006, 09:14:28 PM »
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I have no idea about AmigaZone or your workings.  But if you caught a worm, I would reconsider my OS of choice there and go with a very stable UNIX environment that is immune to such nonsense, Especially if I had "poured my heart and soul" into a project for some 21 years of my life.  This is not meant to be an insult or any other form of put down, just stating an opinion so that perhaps in the future you will not have to spend time repairing a server :-)

Then again, I have NO love for Microsoft at all ;-)

Anyhow, a nice FreeBSD (would definitely be my first choice) or Linux server running Apache 2.0x would be great for a site of your nature.

Hope that you view this as constructive criticism and not a put down... because it is wholly meant to help!

Take care,

Mike



AmigaZone, which I started in 1985, originally ran on a mini-mainframe in Chicago on a service called American People/Link. The computer was used mainly for banking services but they leased time/space/storage/bandwidth on it to Plink to run an online service with "clubs." AmigaZone was one of those clubs, grew to be the biggest one with over 10,000 paying members. Plink shut down in 1991 and I moved the system and most of its customers to Portal Communications in Calif.

Portal ran on a Sun Unix system. AmigaZone became a club / forum on Portal and ran successfully there until 1996 until Portal decided to shut down all their consumer services and become an accounting software development house. Go look at http://www.portal.com and you can see what they do.

So, AmigaZone was homeless again and I moved it to an ISP and we built an NT machine and bought the WildCat package to run it on which offers a full range of connection services: telnet, Web, FTP, mail, file libraries, message boards and news feeds, live chats, games, you name it.

I even got Amiga software developers to add a "chat window" to their Telnet clients (people generally don't use Telnet to log into systems for interactive chats) so incoming and outgoing text wouldn't mix with each other and you could send a line at a time instead of a character at a time. AmTelnet and other clients have a chat window because I asked for it to be put in there. Because it generated sales for its developer from AmigaZone members.

People castigated me for not running AmigaZone on an Amiga. Frankly, there WAS no all-in-one Amiga software solution that could do what Wildcat could do. It's been running on that hardware since 1996. There's been no need to upgrade (except for occasional system patches).. since the system was totally stable, could easily handle the load of what members I had left after Commodore went away and the Amiga market shrivelled into nothing (one by one, people switched to differrent platforms).. up until it was hit by a worm last week.

That's the history of the whole thing in a nutshell. The system has been operating under the same name for 21 years, but not on the same hardware, and in three different cities with three different host companies on three totally different hardware platforms and all of this is explained on my Web site, and I guarantee you I'm not going to explain this again.

I'm doing it because it's my baby. If it takes new hardware and a newer OS, then that's what it'll get.

Worms and viruses are evil. The idiots who create them are evil and should be tarred and feathered and castrated live on CNN.

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Re: Amigazone
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 05, 2006, 09:53:58 PM »
@harv,

Sorry to hear about the worm, but maybe your ISP can do a better job in the future of keeping your system updated.

As for the rest, I think we need to step away from the keyboard before someone gets upset.

Wayne