New video of TBL Assembly 2006 demo

[ptek]

Hi all,

As promised, I took the jlariv8957 capture and replaced the audio by the original MP3 composed by Olof Gustafsson.

I also clipped 1 ou 2 seconds from the end of the video where the workbench was visible.

The video data was not transcoded, so no extra loss of quality. I used the Direct Stream option on VirtualDub.

It took me more it I was expecting, since I had to add an offset to start of the MP3. Moreover, due to slight timing differences between the original audio and the MP3, I also had to do a less than a second time shift - don't worry, I preserved the pitch. Although there is some extra processing over the original MP3, I hear no loss of quality and the timing is right (looking at the end the bird sounds seems syncronized).

This whole thing, due the the unnexpected time shift issue took me almost 2 hours But it's done.

Now the bad news

I will not distribute it on a FTP since I often reboot my PC and my upload bandwith is ofter cluttered by use and abuse of P2P software

So, I putted on filelodge webspace, on 3 .RAR parts. Free web space sucks... I had to split the file into 3 parts.


Important : Download only one part at a time. Otherwise, the server might kick you.

I may also seed it on emule if asked.

One last word : jlariv8957, I hope you don't mind that I distribute this version. If you do, tell me and I'll remove it from the 'net.

So, here it goes :


http://www.filelodge.com/files/1043/Amiga_TBL_assembly_06_audio_by_ptek.part1.rar

http://www.filelodge.com/files/1043/Amiga_TBL_assembly_06_audio_by_ptek.part2.rar

http://www.filelodge.com/files/1043/Amiga_TBL_assembly_06_audio_by_ptek.part3.rar

[Lando]

carls wrote:

Dr_Righteous wrote:
I'm probably in the minority here, but I was unimpressed with the demo. It's painfully obvious to me most of the work was done in Lightwave, which is available on just about every platform out there. Call me oldschool, but I'm far more impressed by demos done primarily in code... Preferably assembler... Written to take full advantage of the system's hardware directly.

Damn I miss Future Crew.

If you miss Future Crew, who to my knowledge never released an Amiga demo, I can't see why you're bashing TBL...

Well, there was Lapsuus (Future Crew = Future Mark = MadOnion 3dMark = Maturefurk)

But Future crew just stole effects and ideas from Amiga demos and recoded them in 386 asm for the PC.  I just watched Second Reality again and still can't see anything in there that hadn't already been done on Amiga several years earlier (rotzooms, plasmas, glenzvectors).  And a lot of these effects were easier to code for VGA thanks to the byte-per-pixel graphics.  The only reason they became famous was because they were the first to do it on PC, which at the time was still largely a business machine.

They were good at what they did but they certainly weren't innovative or groundbreaking.

[Piru]

@Lando

Well, there was Lapsuus (Future Crew = Future Mark = MadOnion 3dMark = Maturefurk)

Most of the FC guys left Remedy even before Max Payne. They do have a company called Bugbear Entertainment, but that's not related to futuremark, 3dmark or maturefurk (Bugbear relased FlatOut 2 recently).

No FC guys were involved in Lapsuus demo.

(This info is from Mikko, so it should be pretty accurate.)

[carls]

Piru wrote:
@Lando

Well, there was Lapsuus (Future Crew = Future Mark = MadOnion 3dMark = Maturefurk)

Most of the FC guys left Remedy even before Max Payne. They do have a company called Bugbear Entertainment, but that's not related to futuremark, 3dmark or maturefurk (Bugbear relased FlatOut 2 recently).

No FC guys were involved in Lapsuus demo.

(This info is from Mikko, so it should be pretty accurate.)

Thanks for verifying this.

As for Second Reality, which is a very good demo IMO, it featured some stuff that couldn't be made with a consumer-level Amiga at that point. The shaded 3D city, for example. I'd say it means as much to the PC scene as, for example, Desert Dream does to the Amiga scene (which is quite a lot). Kefrens didn't really feature anything new or extremely groundbreaking in DD except the overall impression of a well-polished demo.

Lapsuus is a good demo, but the 2x2 c2p really bugs me. A lot of the features, such as motion blur, are more or less lost in the blocky display.

[carls]

This thread inspired me to watch Desert Dream again. Holy crap what a demo that is! I mean, I know it's one of the best Amiga demos I've ever seen, but it was probably a year ago since I last watched it. Ahh, you've gotta love free culture when it's this good.

[ptek]

That reminds one of my wishes for UAE : A special version just for making videos out of it ... Full CPU and chipset cycle waiting until the current frame and audio are saved on the .avi file...

Unfortunably, I don't have the time (and maybe skill) to take the winuae source and make this, but what do you think ?

Would be a nice idea for recording demos.