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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2003, 04:28:52 PM »
It can't open cybergraphics.library v42...
 

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2003, 05:57:14 PM »
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It can't open cybergraphics.library v42...


Ah, that'll be my fault - I compiled for Cgx4, being a lazy git that I am.

It's not the application that relies on this, its the underlying graphics abstraction layer. I don't think I'm actually using any v4 specifics so I'll recompile it to check for an older version...

Expect an update in ur mail. However, you *must* have Warp3D v4 - the test code is using vertex arrays.

Thanks for the bug report!

At least nobody seems to have had a major burnout yet :-D
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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2003, 09:16:12 PM »
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Got an A3000 with CSPPC/CVPPC combo that can be of help perhaps?


Sure, that'll be ideal. Send me your email (heh, unless you already did). Not  got any results for a CSPPC/CVPPC combo yet.

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Also got an A4000 wth Mediator 4000Di and Voodoo5 5500, however I havent managed to get this one working properly. Only manage to  get up 800x600 every now and then, most of the time everything is just garble. If I try something else than 800x600 I get black screen. more than 800x600, it even sometimes freezes completely) - but as I notice your software is tested on voodoo5 already.. any hint on getting it running?   :)


Cripes, that does sound dodgy. Could be a botched p96 installation? Not sure, to be fair I only have BVision. The A4K/Mediator4000/Voodoo5 tests were ran by someone else before I posted here. I do know it worked fine up to 1024x768 on that combination.
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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2003, 09:41:50 AM »
I have to report that Korea started new reserch on nuclear weppon and China faces terrifying SARS disease due to errors in your software.

Lucky you, that you enclosed contribution about not taking the responsibility for all this mess... ;P

PS: Should I try these tests for CGX V4 or you have recompiled it?
 

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2003, 12:45:15 PM »
Hi Adam,

There should be a version3 comptible pair in your email by now...

I'm so lazy, my gfx layer didn't even really need v4.


Part of the reason is that Warp3D p[referrs v4 (IIRC) so I figured it may prevent odd bugs I had no control over


Anyhow, my gfx abstraction layer now asks for v41 which means anything from now on should work on v3 too...''in theory'' ;-)
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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2003, 01:35:53 PM »
Ehm Karlos...

I get the exact same message as olegil:

It can't open cybergraphics.library v42...

I'm running P96 if it's any help, and got Warp3D v4...
 

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2003, 04:06:35 PM »
I've a 4000T with 060/50 + CVisionPPC waitinfg for your proggy

:-)

Ciao

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2003, 04:54:35 PM »
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Ehm Karlos...

I get the exact same message as olegil:

It can't open cybergraphics.library v42...

I'm running P96 if it's any help, and got Warp3D v4...


I have to admit some igornance here. I don't know a great deal about p96. So far, you and olegil seem to be the only ones having this problem.

Perhaps there are updated versions ot the rtg.library that you could get?

I think I saw in a report from one of the p96 users that he was using p96 v2.1 and had no problems with the cybergraphics.library v42 requirement.

Really sorry, I've only coded for cybergraphX and left the rest up to p96's emulation. On the whole it's worked fine.

I do have a verion which asks only for CyberGraphX v3 libraries (to be fair apart from bitmap locking and a few queries I don't use much CGX stuff at all).

Maybe that would work? Or perhaps CGX emulation is something that has to be set up and for some reason it isn't in your cases.

Are there any p96 experts out there who can help?
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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2003, 05:07:32 PM »
@Karlos

If you got P96 running, you also got the
CGX-emu running. Problem is that emu isn't
perfect, and only knows about CGX-3.

Back when I used Amithlon, I also had lots
of probs with my system crashing on code
that just worked fine on the A4k (CGX_4).

Redoing that code to use the P96API.library
did help, but also meant that I would have needed
to keep 2 versions of the code.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2003, 10:35:37 PM »
Thanks for the info, Kronos. If p96 only knows about v3, why did the code fail in such a minority of cases so far?

In any event, I don't use such a huge amount of cgx specifics and with my code still very much in development I'll maybe stick to v3 if it helps p96 systems.
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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2003, 03:10:43 PM »
Could be the 2.1-version (which is only
legal for Amithlon and Prometheus-users
afaik), giving back a higher version-number
on the cgx-emu, to get around some progs that
demand CGX_4, but only use functions supplied
by CGX_3/P96.

But I must admit that when I checked that
old source I found out that I hadn't used
the cgx-lib, but just one of the patched/
replaced graphics-library-function that would allways
crash under P96 but worked o.k. on CGX.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2003, 08:22:26 PM »
Well, I think I can get away with CGX3 for my layer OK - a few people who volunteered got that to work.

Incidentally, I just crashed my Amiga most spectacularly (dont worry guys, was another program). Some of the prettiest graphics I ever saw :-)...
Hmmm I love the smell of overheating permedia chips in the morning ;-)
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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2003, 09:10:53 PM »
I got an A4040 with CV64/3D
I can test your program if you want
i got some knoweldge about warp3d programming too
my mail is:
thellier AT free.fr

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2003, 09:26:00 PM »
I just gave my network card to some poor sod who had gotten a new nForce motherboard for his office computer and wanted to run Debian on it. Needless to say, I ain't got time for his ####, so I gave him the rtl8139 and kicked him out of my office :-)

Too bad it was the A1200's NIC I gave him, so I can't actually try out your new version...

On the other hand, maybe having Amigas in your office counts as being l33t enough around here anyway. ;-)
 

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2003, 09:56:19 PM »
Hi Karlos

Maybe my Amiga 1200 will be of use for your programming project.

Please check your e-mail, I have just sent you some details.
 

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Re: Got a 3D card in your Amiga? I need you!
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 15, 2003, 11:53:57 PM »
@GadgetMaster,

Hey, long time no see matey! Replies in the post :-)

@olegil

A1200s in the office? Definately leet! Your milage may be better with the newer version, it only asks for v41 which IIRC is CyberGfx v3

@woof

Congratulations sir, you are the first person to offer a CV643D test system! The tests go upto 800x600 - I don't know if the CV643D will be too happy but since the tests don't use texturemaps you may be ok. I'll send the benchmarks soon.
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