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Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« on: August 01, 2006, 09:07:02 PM »
From the Wikipedia article about Star Trek IV.


"The model of Apple Macintosh computer shown in the Plexicorp office scene is the Mac Plus. According to rumor, it was intended to be an Amiga, but Commodore required the producers to purchase a computer while Apple was willing to lend them the machine shown. Amigas were used to produce the screens of the Vulcan computer used by Spock to re-train himself in logic."
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I wonder how many Star Trek fans bought a Mac Plus instead.
 

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2006, 09:11:24 PM »
Commodore made good computers, but they were total w@nkers when it came to marketing.

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2006, 09:48:23 PM »
When someone asks to put your product in a movie, especially in a good light, you say YES!
 

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2006, 10:31:48 PM »
DOH!

More stupidity.. Nowadays you have to pay for product placement in movies. Companies like Coke and Pepsi pay big bucks for air time in movies. :roll:
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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2006, 10:51:32 PM »
Just think, if it had been an Amiga... When Scotty said "hello computer", it could have spoken back via the SAY command! :-)

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2006, 12:06:46 AM »
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Commodore made good computers, but they were total w@nkers when it came to marketing.
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Amazing that after all these years we can still discover new ways in which Commodore marketing could be total morons.
"Double Dumb A$$ on you".... Kirk, quote from the same movie.

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2006, 12:35:26 AM »
I remember there was a Commodore Pet in Kirk's apartment in the first Star Trek movie.  Never saw an Amiga in Star Trek though :-(  Commodore had the best computer in the world, yet didn't seem to want to tell anyone about it  :-?
 

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2006, 01:08:09 AM »
@InTheSand

That would have propagated the notion that Star Trek was unrealistic.
I mean, talking computers? HAHAHA in 1986!
Whatever.

 

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2006, 01:40:45 AM »
Hehe! Well perhaps the Mac was more in line with people's expectations... Monochrome graphics and beeps for sound!  :-D

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2006, 03:02:50 AM »
If this is true Commodore really f-ed up!!!  What a bunch of morons!!  I guess they were so stuck on themselves from the popularity of the Commodore 64 they thought they didn't need to markey at all.  ID10Ts
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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2006, 02:23:24 PM »
Hum,
There's going to be a giant, official Star Trek auction featuring lots from every Star Trek series and movies.
The memorabilia up for grabs includes a pair of phaser guns, a detailed model of the Starship Enterprise, and  a replica of Captain Kirk's chair built for an episode of Deep Space Nine.

There was no mention of the apple computer used to demonstrate the molecular structure of transparent aluminium.

Indulge yourself

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2006, 03:13:11 PM »
To be honest, while I think it was a bad decision for Commodore not to jump at the chance to have an Amiga in Star Trek, I have to wonder how much difference it would have made in the long run.

Put it this way: How much of Apple's current success do you think can be attributed to having a Mac II in Star Trek? Not much really. It may have caused a boom in sales of Mac IIs at the time, but Apple still ended up in financial trouble despite this, and had to be bailed out. Apple are successful now because their products are good and are marketed well, not because one of the products was in Star Trek once.

So how much difference would it have made if an Amiga had been on Star Trek instead? In my opinion none, unless the decision to do this would have spurred Commodore on to market their products better, and maybe not make some of the bad decisions they made.

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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2006, 03:20:05 PM »
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To be honest, while I think it was a bad decision for Commodore not to jump at the chance to have an Amiga in Star Trek, I have to wonder how much difference it would have made in the long run.

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maybe none  but this was in effect a symptom of the underlying problem with commodore at the time. i mean damn their last push at advertisement(in amiga magazines :crazy: ) was in effect a generic 50's style drawing of a man hawking a computer with little or no graphics in the ad.
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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2006, 03:21:10 PM »
Every little bit ....


Adds up to geat big bit !!  ( or a byte .. to a kilobyte etc)
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Re: Star Trek IV "Computer??"
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2006, 03:25:27 PM »
Well, if nothing else it serves as an illustration of their flawed mentality.

It was also a fantastically memorable scene, especially for all of us computer geeks.