Pegasos on the way - yay!

[KennyR]

:-(

All that I can suggest is that you recheck all your connections, and in particular make sure the ATX active power feed is in tightly. If it still doesn't work, you might have a broken tower, or a broken Peg. The first one is more likely. I can't help beyond that, sorry. :-(

You can tell the Pegasos is receiving power even if the PSU fan is off. If you plug in a network cable the link LED will light up (but it's not likely you'll have such a cable unless you have a LAN or broadband).

My tower didn't have a SHIELD. What do the docs of your tower say about it? Or the website if you have no docs?

[Wilse]

Hi Kenny:

All that I can suggest is that you recheck all your connections, and in particular make sure the ATX active power feed is in tightly.

It is.  :-x
No network cable to check with either.  :-(
I'm still trying to find a web site for the case - there's a single sheet of A4 with very basic instructions which don't even touch on the cabling. I can't even tell you who manufactured it. :roll:
The A4 sheet is headed "3008 ATX CASE" and the case says "Stealth" on the front. I got it from PC store, so I'll probably dismantle everything & take it back in & ask them to test it. Dang.

[Warface]

Don't give up. :-)

There are pretty much things one can overlook. Let me mention two of my friends. Both complained that the board is non functioning. For the first it turned out, that he tried to use a 4x CD-ROM from the jurassic, and a 200Mb(!) HDD. (Most probably from Noah's PC store) When he bought a new CD-ROM and a more moden HDD it worked.

For the second it turned out however that it broke in transit... Genesi replaced the broken board though, so you lose nothing, except time.

For me, at first I tried the board with only a CD-ROM which turned out to be just too little for the ATX PSU of the house. When I added the HDD it magically started.

So don't give up, it's just a computer :-)

(I have to mention, that despite the Pegasos is available as Prebuilt systems, most of us purchased the mobo only - so we get what we deserve... :-))

[greenboy]

Hey Wilse,

I always have about a hundred projects going. So the day my Pegasos showed up I took it to a local box-stuffer, spent a few minutes on the [heavy discount] sales floor picking components, and handed them the Pegasos and the MB diagram that came with it. The assembled machine was out the door 50 minutes after that - they even verified that it was booting to the Open Firmware. The assembly only cost me 30 Simolians above the component costs. And while they were stuffing I managed to get another errand done downtown (if you can really call the Montana stix "downtown").

They were also extremely interested in the machine and asked scads of questions - especially when I insisted that I didn't need any extra cooling junk for it! They admired the clean design, dug the fact that it had its own custom OS and could also run Linux, and soon a bunch of others. All in all, a very satisfactory experience!

So let your fingers do the walking :  }

...After that it was easy-peasy to format the drive and install MorphOS from the CD. Minutes after reading the doc on MorphOS-news.de I was in business and digging the main hard drive out of my beat and sinking, stuffed-to-the-gills-with-goodies Amiga 2000, and playing around with some of the software on it after changing a couple things in DOpus Magellan.

[Wilse]

@Warface:

Don't give up.

I won't. Not yet, anyway.  :-)

Both complained that the board is non functioning. For the first it turned out, that he tried to use a 4x CD-ROM from the jurassic, and a 200Mb(!) HDD. (Most probably from Noah's PC store) When he bought a new CD-ROM and a more moden HDD it worked.

Hmm. The HD is brand new but the CD-ROM is an old 24x device from about 5 yrs ago. I'll try it with the CDRW in my girlfriend's PC. It's only about 2 years old.
Was his case completely dead before he changed these parts?

For the second it turned out however that it broke in transit... Genesi replaced the broken board though, so you lose nothing, except time.

Hopefully it isn't that. The board certainly appears to be OK, not that that neccessarily means anything.

(I have to mention, that despite the Pegasos is available as Prebuilt systems, most of us purchased the mobo only - so we get what we deserve... )

I guess so.  :-)

[Wilse]

@Greenboy:

I always have about a hundred projects going. So the day my Pegasos showed up I took it to a local box-stuffer, spent a few minutes on the [heavy discount] sales floor picking components, and handed them the Pegasos and the MB diagram that came with it. The assembled machine was out the door 50 minutes after that - they even verified that it was booting to the Open Firmware. The assembly only cost me 30 Simolians above the component costs.

I'll try another CDROM tonight and if it still won't come to life, I'll take it into the shop.

They were also extremely interested in the machine and asked scads of questions

The guy in the shop I went to completely glazed over, as soon as I mentioned it was PowerPC and not running Windows, and stopped asking about it. :roll:

[Warface]

Wilse wrote:

Both complained that the board is non functioning. For the first it turned out, that he tried to use a 4x CD-ROM from the jurassic, and a 200Mb(!) HDD. (Most probably from Noah's PC store) When he bought a new CD-ROM and a more moden HDD it worked.

Hmm. The HD is brand new but the CD-ROM is an old 24x device from about 5 yrs ago. I'll try it with the CDRW in my girlfriend's PC. It's only about 2 years old.
Was his case completely dead before he changed these parts?

He told us it's not functioning at all. (We didn't know about the parts he used, he just told us that it's crap. It was for us to find out, that he used those. (I have no idea how he managed to get such an ancient HDD))

He is a happy Pegasos user today. :-)

Are the HDD/CD jumpers all right? Are the units at the right place on the 80 wire IDE cable? Any life sign? (even if tiny?)

[Wilse]

@Everyone:

Are the HDD/CD jumpers all right?

I'm not at home right now, but I think so.
What configuration should they be?

Are the units at the right place on the 80 wire IDE cable?

Ahhhh.....When I asked for 80 pin UDMA cable, the guy in the local store gave me what looked like an ordinary IDE cable and told me they did the same thing. I'm beginning to think he sold me an ordinary IDE cable........I'll clarify this later today. :roll:

Ahhhh.....When I asked for 80 pin UDMA cable, the guy in the local store gave me what looked like an ordinary IDE cable and told me they did the same thing. I'm beginning to think he sold me an ordinary IDE cable........I'll clarify this later today.

If it's an 80-pin UDMA cable, one end will have a blue connector, and this is the end you plug into the motherboard.

[Wilse]

If it's an 80-pin UDMA cable, one end will have a blue connector, and this is the end you plug into the motherboard.

I'm not at home but I'm fairly sure it didn't have a blue connector.
Could this stop the whole thing from powering up?

Wilse wrote:

If it's an 80-pin UDMA cable, one end will have a blue connector, and this is the end you plug into the motherboard.

I'm not at home but I'm fairly sure it didn't have a blue connector.
Could this stop the whole thing from powering up?

Not on a PC it wouldn't, but it would stop your HDD from working.  Have you called Genesi support yet?

[Wilse]

@MDMA:

Have you called Genesi support yet?

No. I didn't realise they had a support no.

Wilse wrote:
@MDMA:

Have you called Genesi support yet?

No. I didn't realise they had a support no.

I was just assuming they have one.

[KennyR]

Ok, I confused people - the IDE cable needed for a Pegasos hard drive
is an ATA66/100 IDE cable. This has 40 holes on each connector but 80
wires inside. The older cables won't work with HDs but they might work
with CD-ROMs - but I'd get two ATA66/100 just to be sure anyway, and
forget the old cables.

KennyR wrote:
Ok, I confused people - the IDE cable needed for a Pegasos hard drive
is an ATA66/100 IDE cable. This has 40 holes on each connector but 80
wires inside. The older cables won't work with HDs but they might work
with CD-ROMs - but I'd get two ATA66/100 just to be sure anyway, and
forget the old cables.

Them's the ones with a blue connector. :-)

[KennyR]

Mine don't have a blue connector, but they do have a tag saying telling you what IDE socket to plug it into - master, slave or controller. The controller tag is blue.