Pegasos on the way - yay!

[Wilse]

@KennyR:

Connect that PWRON on the motherboard to the on switch.

Is that "POWER SW"? (I don't have "PWRON")

See the sheet of A4 with the schematic that came with your Pegasos

I don't seem to have one. I was actually thinking it was odd that there were no instructions. That explains it.

but I can tell you right now its the "bottom" two pins on the connector that's just next to floppy connector.

Should the orange wire go at the bottom or the top?

Cheers,

[KennyR]

Is that "POWER SW"? (I don't have "PWRON")

Yes. Edit: It's marked PWRON on the Pegasos schematic, and POWER SW on the tower cable.

See the sheet of A4 with the schematic that came with your Pegasos

I don't seem to have one. I was actually thinking it was odd that there were no instructions. That explains it.

Thankfully it should be on your MOS CD in pdf form. If you really need it, use a PC to view and print it. In fact, if you need it, you can find it here on my webspace, in pdf. (I hope I'm not breaking any copyright here).

Should the orange wire go at the bottom or the top?

None of my wires were orange (AFAIR). It depends on the tower. Each of the tower connectors should have a small label on it. This is oriented upward towards the top of the tower case.

[DaveP]

@all

LOL! I can see the advertising campaign now:

"Pegasos, take valium before assembling. Genesi cannot be held responsible for any electric shocks or cardiac arrests that may result of the frustration from assembling this in kit form"

It can only get better.   :-?

I wonder how people are getting on with their CommodoreONE mobos ( if any have been sold )...

[Warface]

The naming convention of the wires depends on the case manufacturers. I remember sitting in front of the wires being puzzled, calling some friends which one can be the Power button. (At me it was SomethingMB or the like? I can't remember, honestly.)

Everyone around me received the schemantics in printed form tho. Maybe your dealer forgot to include it?

EDIT

It's still better than some Amiga cases. When I received my V-Tower for my A1200 the dealer forgot to send me the user guide. When I complained he told me that everything he received was sent to me. One day later they found the user guide though... And they have sent it to me. It was in german... I'll never forget the word "kabel-klampsmitter". :-)

[Wilse]

@KennyR:

It's marked PWRON on the Pegasos schematic, and POWER SW on the tower cable.

OK.

In fact, if you need it, you can find it here on my webspace, in pdf.

Thanks. Things are much clearer now.  :-P

Each of the tower connectors should have a small label on it. This is oriented upward towards the top of the tower case.

I'll have another go tonight when I get home.

[KennyR]

Be fair Dave, it's a Betatester board. It's pretty easy to actually build the system, it's just that Wilse (and myself when I went to try it) have no experience building ATX systems.

The hard part is still to come - installing MOS is a sinch but I expect Wilse will need my help again when he tries to get it to auto-boot - I'll have to spout some open firmware nonsense.

[Wilse]

It's pretty easy to actually build the system, it's just that Wilse (and myself when I went to try it) have no experience building ATX systems.

Indeed. I'm sure it would've been much more straightforward if I had the schematic.

The hard part is still to come - installing MOS is a sinch but I expect Wilse will need my help again when he tries to get it to auto-boot - I'll have to spout some open firmware nonsense.

Well, probably at least a couple of days away. I still don't know if the RAM will work and there's footy on TV tonight and tomorrow. Add to that my girlfriend has decided she's hogging the PC to learn Spanish, which means I'll have to dig my old monitor out from the very back of the cupboard under the stairs.......I may find myself in front of the goggle-box tonight.  :-P

[DaveP]

@KennyR

I didn't mean to cause offence. Sorry if that sounded unfair.

Honestly!

It just seems absurd that whoever sold Wilse the board didn't send easy to understand step by step instructions printed out. What if it was your only system - and you were told that on the CD-Rom there was a PDF you could read ( but you don't have a system on which to read the PDF - catch 22! ).

Pegasos is still not out of Beta, nor is MorphOS despite what some people claim. Its not for the masses and the whole absurdity of how close yet how so far made me laugh out loud. I was getting mental images of Wilse being
electrocuted or getting so frustrated he popped a heart valve.

Now the freeview market has opened up in the UK there is some avenue for an easy to fit Pegasos based STB *this year* to be released. Its going to need to be a lot more developed to get that far.

It reminds me of a review I did of the Power Tower. Very near but VERY far from a finished consumer product.

I don't know if Wilse would have had the same experience with A1 or not - probably would but it bothers me that you say that the hardest part is installing MOS. Jeez. :-(

No review I read so far warned about that!

We are so near to a consumer system dammit!

EDIT: misread "is a sinch(sic)" but the autoboot is hard. Disregard the bit above!

[KennyR]

@Dave

No problem. I'm not offended. ;-)

It just seems absurd that whoever sold Wilse the board didn't send easy to understand step by step instructions printed out.

It was probably just overlooked by accident. I got the schematic and the other people who got this offer also did. He could have mailed or written to Genesi and sent him the schematic, I'm sure. Wilse should check if he has the full package and that nothing else has been overlooked.

Pegasos is still not out of Beta, nor is MorphOS despite what some people claim. Its not for the masses and the whole absurdity of how close yet how so far made me laugh out loud. I was getting mental images of Wilse being
electrocuted or getting so frustrated he popped a heart valve.

Heh. Yes, you are right. MOS and Pegasos are still in beta, MOS more so than the Peg. I expected the worst when I got it and for a while my worst fears seemed to have come true. If not for my friends at #AmigaZeux it probably would have taken me ages to set up. But in the end, almost all of the problems were caused by my negativity - I had really low expectations of MOS, but I was very pleasantly suprised when I got it to run.

Don't let anyone try to tell you MorphOS is perfect - it's not, and has frustrating bugs (edit: and frustrating omissions). Yet at the same time is absolutely amazing the job it's coders have done. It's fully stable, apart from Ambient which I do not like, even though it looks great.

I don't know if Wilse would have had the same experience with A1 or not - probably would but it bothers me that you say that the hardest part is installing MOS. Jeez.

The actual install is easy, once you get that far. It's basically a case of "Copy CD0:#? ALL DH0:". Partition the drive before install is also easy, and even if the partitioning tool (SCSIControl) which comes with MOS isn't my favourite, it is very powerful.

Open firmware is the rub. You have to give it some very obscure commands to tell it to auto-boot MOS, commands that aren't explained and aren't supplied with the board - except as the full open firmware manual, which doesn't help much. This isn't MorphOS's fault, but I'd be happier if Genesi included a quick install guide on paper with Pegasos.

We are so near to a consumer system dammit!

Nearer than ever. It's really within sight now. At long last.

[Wilse]

@Dave:

It just seems absurd that whoever sold Wilse the board didn't send easy to understand step by step instructions printed out.

There's a simple explanation, IMO. My original order, to pegasos-USA, got lost in the system and I still hadn't received my board two weeks after ordering. This didn't strike me as a major problem, bearing in mind I placed my A1 order six months ago and there is still no sign of it.
I made an enquiry to pegasos-USA and received a *very* prompt reply and apology from BBRV, stating that it should have been with me already and they'd rush me out another from Paris. That's just what they did - it arrived in matter of two working days.
So they forgot one piece of paper - I'll live. More important, they remembered the Peg, the cpu card, MOS CD, Feeble Files, Software Tycoon, Tales of Tamar and a T-shirt.

I was getting mental images of Wilse being electrocuted

:lol: Not yet, touch wood.
TBH, so far it's been a lot less stressful than towering my Amiga was.

I don't know if Wilse would have had the same experience with A1 or not - probably would but it bothers me that you say that the hardest part is installing MOS. Jeez.

Well, my A1 will come with linux, which I'd imagine will give me a lot more grief than MOS. Having said that, my A1 is taking so long, maybe AOS4 will be ready by the time I get it.  ;-)

[KennyR]

Did you get the little Pegasos sticker?

[Wilse]

@KennyR:

It was probably just overlooked by accident.

Without a doubt.

I got the schematic and the other people who got this offer also did. He could have mailed or written to Genesi and sent him the schematic,

Well, I didn't know there was one but I've printed off the one on your site, so no matter.  :-)

Wilse should check if he has the full package and that nothing else has been overlooked.

What was the whole package? I have to say I'd be surprised if there was anything missing, as the contents of the box are already spanking value for money. Three games, mobo, cpu, MOS and a T-shirt for not a lot of money. I was very impressed, even though I haven't played a game in ages.  :-D

[Wilse]

KennyR wrote:
Did you get the little Pegasos sticker?

Yes, I forgot to mention that.  :-)

[KennyR]

Yep, the games are pretty good - especially Software Tycoon. Point and click adventure game fans will love Feeble Files but I've never liked that genre (about the only Amigan I know who doesn't :roll:). Tales of Tamar looks good but I can't figure out how to play it... Knights and Merchants (which doesn't come with the stuff but you can buy it seperately) is a quality port of a quality Settlers-type game.

[Wilse]

It's marked PWRON on the Pegasos schematic, and POWER SW on the tower cable.

OK, that one's in place, with the POWER SW marking facing the top of the case. Reset, Power-LED & HDD LED are also in place.
The connecter that is supposed to go towards the top right, for USB, I have two of, marked 1 & 2.
The speaker connector is in place OK too.

I tried switching on with these connected up - still zilch.

After this I'm a little puzzled as the only connector I have left is a single hole one with 'SHIELD' written on it.

 :-?

[KennyR]

:-(

All that I can suggest is that you recheck all your connections, and in particular make sure the ATX active power feed is in tightly. If it still doesn't work, you might have a broken tower, or a broken Peg. The first one is more likely. I can't help beyond that, sorry. :-(

You can tell the Pegasos is receiving power even if the PSU fan is off. If you plug in a network cable the link LED will light up (but it's not likely you'll have such a cable unless you have a LAN or broadband).

My tower didn't have a SHIELD. What do the docs of your tower say about it? Or the website if you have no docs?