Is Amiga (the company) dead?

[bloodline]

recidivist wrote:
  IF Bill Gates wanted to be sure of keeping yet another would-be competitor OS down,

They don't need to... with a 95% markest share and a software legacy that goes back over 10 years... the last thing you need to worry about is another OS... unless the other os is MacOS X :-D  

a brilliant strategy would be for another company ,which just happens to be contractually prohibited from releasing a non-Microsoft OS,to acquire the  competing OS.
 Thus the other OS is out of the market,yet Microsoft can claim it was not their doing.

Does this actually make sense to you?

[cv643d]

What about the German office where Petro worked? Who works there now?

[snowman040]

Someone with a couple of $ should buy them out and put them out of their misery

Anyone has idea how much $ would it be to buy all Amiga IP/Patents and related stuff from Gateway, and how much to get the name licence and amiga.com from Amino ?

[dammy]

The cost would be far more then what's it's currently worth, and that isn't much.  Problem is they (Gateway and Amiga Inc) would want dot.com pricing in a post dot.com bust world.

Dammy

[nasty]

@ magnetic

ROTFL

Alive? You call that alive? They have been dead for quite sometime now, they may be barely breathing, latching on to their mobile stuff. As far as desktop goes they could care less - as far as Legacy and PPC Amiga support they surely don't care. To make matters even worse they won't even license to external investors either. L A M E

LOL, I hope you aint a paramedic? "You call that alive? They have been dead for quite sometime now, they may be barely breathing" If the company was dead then people wouldnt be getting hassled from these idiots over pointless matters!

@ thread
If you bought out Amiga Inc what would you actually own? except from a large debt?

[wonea]

Anyone has idea how much $ would it be to buy all Amiga IP/Patents and related stuff from Gateway, and how much to get the name licence and amiga.com from Amino ?

Not sure, probably close to 1/4 million for the name.

It's weird to talk about these things, with a vague sense of hope.  The fact is, nothing will come of this.  No-one knows how to contact Amiga, and they don't want to be contacted.  I really don't see any way out of this situation.  Will Amiga ever licence another PPC board for AOS4?  Who knows?  I put my money on AROS, at least no-one like Amiga Inc can ever take it away.

Otherwise your just betting on a horse, which may look like its running fast but for how long before it stops?

[itix]

What about the German office where Petro worked? Who works there now?

Wasnt it closed down years ago.

[Colani1200]

itix wrote:

What about the German office where Petro worked? Who works there now?

Wasnt it closed down years ago.

In fact, it was closed in 11/2000.
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/13214

[adolescent]

Magic-Merl wrote:
Sure we all had hopes that KMOS would bring back the Amiga in a big big way but alas it was never to be.  At least - that is how it looks.

KMOS bought Amiga for the name, the brand, the ability to market it again.  

You're assuming that KMOS ever really existed, and wasn't just a ploy to avoid a legal settlement with Genesi.

[Gojirax]

Gateway (And all huge companies like Dell, HP, Sony etc) purchases patents all over the place.

It has NOTHING to do with actually caring about the technology they're purchasing and everything to do with covering their butts legally.

If you come up with some fantastic new video/audio technology there are pretty good odds that your company will find itself facing a few lawsuits because some other company will claim to have created something similar and has a patent.

If you have a warehouse full of your own patents then you just bring yours, show a valid comparison to your new product (Even though it was created on it's own and has nothing to do with it.) and you win your lawsuit.

It is ALL about who has collected the widest collection of patents, and nothing else. Which is why Gateway retained them.

[Raffaele]

adolescent wrote:

Magic-Merl wrote:
Sure we all had hopes that KMOS would bring back the Amiga in a big big way but alas it was never to be.  At least - that is how it looks.

KMOS bought Amiga for the name, the brand, the ability to market it again.  

You're assuming that KMOS ever really existed, and wasn't just a ploy to avoid a legal settlement with Genesi.

Indeed it just seems so!

The facts that AmigaOS was sold to KMOS seems RETROACTIVE and this move is illegal at all...

Amiga Inc. lost the sue with Genesi in an USA Federal Court, and they claimed they can't realize AmigaOS version for Pegasos machine because all intellectual properties of AmigaOS were not anymore in their possess, but owns to KMOS.

Now Genesi has sued Amiga INC. again in Federal Court for not-fulfilment of decisions of the Court in the elder trial.

If Genesi succeded in this new trial, the judge will force Amiga Inc. to realize AmigaOS 4.0 for Pegasos and it could be that also the judge will allow Genesi to name with Amiga brand one of their line of computers.

[snowman040]

OMG who the :madashell: is KMOS now ? :-( South American soap operas are simple comparing to this :-o

So I guess if there >WAS< some company X with milions of $ and willing to buy Amiga name (from whoever), site (from whoever2), patents and IP from Gateway, OS4 from Hyperion, solve mess with Genesi (omg?) ..... it would be years of lawyer time and millions of $ wasted on papers instead R&D :-(

POLL: would 10 million $ would be enough for this ?  :idea:  

[snowman040]

anyone ?
:-D

POLL: would 10 million $ would be enough for this ?  :idea:  

Without wanting to sound negative, 1 million is too much for this at this point.

[Matt_H]

Wayne wrote:

POLL: would 10 million $ would be enough for this ?  :idea:  

Without wanting to sound negative, 1 million is too much for this at this point.

Sure, that might be their technological value, but remember that companies never let things go for what they're actually worth!

[Lando]

snowman040 wrote:
OMG who the :madashell: is KMOS now ? :-( South American soap operas are simple comparing to this :-o

So I guess if there >WAS< some company X with milions of $ and willing to buy Amiga name (from whoever), site (from whoever2), patents and IP from Gateway, OS4 from Hyperion, solve mess with Genesi (omg?) ..... it would be years of lawyer time and millions of $ wasted on papers instead R&D

The patents aren't really needed to produce a new Amiga computer and/or OS - they mostly relate to 80's technology that serve no useful purpose in the 21st century.

The 'OS4 from Hyperion' bit is probably the easiest - if/when OS4 'final' is released, it's just a single $20k payment to get it back.  And if it never gets released, Hyperion only have the rights to 4.0x, so the new owner can just release their own new official version of AmigaOS as 4.1 (or 5.0) and bypass Hyperion altogether.

As for the problems with Genesi, they just need to port AmigaDE to the Pegasos as they were ordered to by the Court some years ago.  Since AmigaDE is basically Tao's product with Amiga branding, all this would require is a payment to Tao for them to do the port, and giving Genesi the right to use the Amiga brand name with their products.  Job done.