Triplebooting Pegasos II

[Piru]

So, one suddenly realizes that one of the HDDs actually has unpartitioned and unused area on it. What to do? Boring solution would have been to partition the area for some more por^H^H^Hcontent.

Instead this is what I did:

I finally figured out how to set up Mac OS X for Pegasos. I also installed Debian/GNU Linux unstable with the latest kernel. When booting the system presents a nice menu to choose the OS to launch. By default, if no action is taken, it will boot into MorphOS.





Mac OS X install is using Molk 0.7, the bootmenu is implemented with BootCreator.

Well, nothing new there really, but at least I can now impress some guests with the multiboot capability. :-)

[Matt_H]

When I get a Peg, that'll be one of the first things I do. I love versatile hardware :-)

[Merc]

Sigh, now I *really* want a PegII  :-)

[Gav]

How well does mac os X perform on a pegasos under emulation then??Very tempted to buy a pegasos aswell..

[Piru]

@Gav

How well does mac os X perform on a pegasos under emulation then?

There is no 3D graphics acceleration, so graphics operations are the slowest part. Graphically intensive operations such as video playback are painful (more like slideshow, due to missing hardware acceleration).

The good news is that otherwise it runs pretty close to the native speed of the hardware (it doesn't do any CPU emulation after all). Thus it's slightly slower than 1GHz G4 Mac. My experience of the emulation is just 2 evenings so far, though.

[magnetic]

Nice screenshots Piru :-)

My Peg2 is running MOS, OSX Panther, and Ubuntu with 2.6.15 kernel. Also menu selectable at boot. However, I'm using MOLK micro kernel for Mac On Linux - Networking, sound, USB, DVD/CD burning works too! I run the following apps on OSX very nicely:

Photoshop 7
Lightwave 7
Comic Life
Firefox
IE
Remote Desktop
Xchat Aqua
Obelisk
Iphoto
Itunes (*with streaming)
and more...

what runs slow/unusable
Imovie
DVD playback
anything 3d related.

Also a Note: Ubuntu is Awesome on the peg2 and Installs from the PPC Install disk that works on the Mac too! It probably the easiest to use and most functions. Its great.

But, Of course the Best is Morphos which I use the most for doing graphics, IRC, surfing, music, and more!

You guys really should get a Peg2 its all the computer you need!

magnetic

[jmbattle]

Does OS-X make heavy use of the GPU for the attractive filtering effects and animation (resizing/minimising etc.)?

How does this perform?

Thanks,
James
x

[Piru]

@jmbattle

Does OS-X make heavy use of the GPU for the attractive filtering effects and animation (resizing/minimising etc.)?

Yes it does, and all these are done with CPU with MOL.

How does this perform?

All these effects are naturally slower than on a real Mac.

However, I must say I was quite surprised how well these effects perform still, even without GPU acceleration. For example the zoom effect on the panel is very snappy, no obvious slowdown is visible there. Minimizing windows to panel is slower (most of the time it's fullscreen effect), but it still isn't slow, it just drops frames, so it's a bit jumpy. It doesn't bother me, personally.

You can also disable these eyecandy effects if they bother you.

[Raffaele]

You feel confortable when triple booting it...


While I just want to QUADRUPLE boot it...

Gimme OS 4.0 for Pegasooooooooos!

 :boohoo:  :-o  :idea:  :cry:  :-P  ;-)

[magnetic]

Raffaele

OS 4 for Pegasos is never going to happen. You can thank amiga   Inc for this....

Besides, Morphos will serve all your Amiga needs. It is more robust than OS4 and has more legacy program compatiblity, better 68 Emulation with Trance, and has many native programs.

I remember when I got my first Peg, a Peg1. I had an Amiga 4000T PPC that I loved. After I got the peg I no longer really used the 4000T, just for Video Editing. Eventually, I sold it as the Pegasos and Morph did everything I did on the 4000T better and faster!

magnetic

[Blade]

Well, lets just raise the bar a little bit
Here on my Peg, there are six Boot options:

two linux flavours:


nothing special, just a plain Suse kde desktop


this is Ubuntu, with gnome desktop

two mac os flavours:


the classic Mac OS, it is installed as my favourite party game, You dont know jack seems not to work properly with the classic part in OS X


Well, just OS X

and finally two err, Amiga flavours:


MorphOS 1.4, with latest Ambient and so on, seen on several screenshots


Yes thats right, this is a screenshot from a plain OS 3.9 Installation, and my Peg boots directly into it
The intersting thing might be, contrary to molk, the underlying os is here not linux, boot indeed a stripped Morphos
(it is about 5 MB currently, and still has space for removing stuff) thus is booting pretty fast into uae
However, as there is no PPC Jit for UAE everything is a bit slow compared to the real 060 Amiga I have here, not to speak
about X86 UAE Setups. Nevertheless it is working, it is fun and hey who knows perhaps I will boot into C64 one day too

And maybe some day the OS Versions of Solaris and BeOs are available for the Pegs too, so I am sure my Bootmenu will grow

[Piru]

@Blade

:-P

[tomazkid]

 @Magnetic
 :ponder: :roll:

@Piru

Cool  :-)

[amigadave]

I'm impressed Blade!  Where are you located?  I have recently considered buying a Pegasos.

[Acill]

Well done Piru! I have OS X Tiger, MophOS 1.4.5, Ubuntu and Gentoo all running froma menu at startup on my Pegasos II as well! You have to love the Pegasos. It simply is the best computer system ever made as far as I can see. If hardware GPU was supported it would be an awesome Mac, however the speed OS X gets is perfect and is no less then using a older mac that doesnt have Wuartz Extreme support. Say a Powerbook G3 Pismo for example, Its actually faster then one of those.

Its a shame we cant have OS4 in them as well. They would run it quite well.