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CyberSCSI MKII
« on: May 06, 2003, 12:05:03 PM »
I just got an CyberSCSI MKII Modul
I like to add it to my 4000..

Can I do something wrong ?

Can I use the Harddrive installed on the 4091-Controller (before) without changing something ?
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2003, 12:24:32 PM »
I don't know about the MkII, but I know on the MkIII boards you have to have active termination at BOTH ends of the SCSI chain, as the board itself has none.

This means if your HD has a built in active termination option on it, your SCSI chain should look like:

HD --- CS SCSI --- Terminator

Otherwise:

Terminator --- HD -- CS SCSI -- Terminator

As I said, i'm not 100% sure this applies to the MkII.
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2003, 12:27:30 PM »
I  have a CD-ROM too... :-)

There is a jumper for Auto-Termination on the
external-scsi board...
For the internal I need a Terminator for sure ?
On the 4091 the CD-ROM Termination was set..
That worked fine
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2003, 12:31:08 PM »
ok, well, if they BOTH have active termination, you're sorted, but not everything does.
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2003, 12:39:26 PM »
Well, I'm not sure. All I know is, on the MkIII at least, both ends of the scsi chain need active termination.
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2003, 12:47:12 PM »
I will try this evening...
Thanks for help
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2003, 05:29:38 PM »
Ok I tried like tickly said...

There is no Controller and no drive recognized !
I read somewhere that I have to Update the Firmware of the Cyberstorm MKII to use the SCSI-Module !?

Which Firmware to use ? I don't wanna kill my Cyberstorm...

Thanks for an advice
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2003, 06:23:22 PM »
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duesi wrote:
Ok I tried like tickly said...

There is no Controller and no drive recognized !
I read somewhere that I have to Update the Firmware of the Cyberstorm MKII to use the SCSI-Module !?

Which Firmware to use ? I don't wanna kill my Cyberstorm...

Thanks for an advice


The cs mk2 scsi has built in termination (automatic), so your old setup, controller-hd-cdrom will work just fine.
As for firmware (if cybscsi.device does not show up), you're looking for a file called 'Mk2update' (note the '2' indicating a cs mk2).
Hint:
Try the following CLI command:
version cybscsi.device

If a version number shows up, everything is fine, if you get a complaint about 'no such device' you will need to upgrade your firmware.
I think I have the latest mk2 firmware lying around at home somewhere on my hd, I can mail it to you when I get home on friday.

-Paul
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2003, 06:43:44 PM »
I've got the disk from DCE Download Page

I will try the mkII Flash-Update on this one :-)
Seems to be the thing to solve the problem !
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2003, 08:03:07 PM »
Now I'm a bit confused !
I have updated the firmware of my phase5
CSMKII and now my old setup (with 4091 is booting no more) I have the Kickstart Image ! now ..
Please mail me the firmware you got...
I hope that will help.

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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2003, 08:12:12 PM »
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duesi wrote:
Now I'm a bit confused !
I have updated the firmware of my phase5
CSMKII and now my old setup (with 4091 is booting no more) I have the Kickstart Image ! now ..
Please mail me the firmware you got...
I hope that will help.

Damn ! I didn't like worst case sceanrios  


The firmware update i have is most likely the same as yours.

Question: Does your amiga boot from the cs mk2 scsi? try this... It should work now. Regarding the A4091, try moving it around to a different zorro slot, I had the same problem myself with a fastlane z3 that got cured once I moved it to another zorro slot.

Do note this: Some cs mk2 scsi modules do not work on overclocked cs mk2's. If you have an overclocked cs mk2, then drop back to 50 MHz again.
The modules that do not work on overclocked boards have a ncr scsi chip, where as the ones that work with overclocking have a FAS216 scsi chip.

-Paul
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2003, 08:12:07 AM »
My CSMKII isn't overclocked
The SCSI-Modul has a Symbios Logic chip
The cybscsi.device is now recognized yeah !
But the HDD with my setup (from 4091) dosen't boot !
I try to partiton a new drive now...

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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2003, 10:36:14 AM »
I got my 4091 working again ...
( I removed the X-Surf and now my old setup is
booting again) This is strange !

The cybscsi.device didn't show up the CD-ROM
I really wanna change to cybscsi because
its faster than the 4091...
Where can I find the Manual to the CSMKII SCSI-Modul ? (I got it without)
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2003, 08:02:44 PM »
Jumper settings:
jp0: debug mode, leave open
jp1: reserved, leave open
jp2: slow inquiry mode, default=off=open
jp3: slow cable mode, default=off=open
jp4: synchron auto-enable, default=on=closed
jp5: reserved, leavee open

Settings for the termination jumper on the external scsi connector pcb:
1-2: Auto termination: Default
2-3: Termination forced OFF
off: Termination forced ON

Question:
Have you remebered to change the device name in your cd0: driver to cybscsi.device?

Regarding speed, the cybscsi is not that much faster than the A4091, I personally ditched the cybscsi, overclocked to 66 MHz and use an A4091.

-Paul
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Re: CyberSCSI MKII
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2003, 10:40:01 PM »
Furter to that note (?), I sure hope my CS060MKII is soon ready. It's currently in  production at DCE and has been so for a little while.
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