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Offline GojiraxTopic starter

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X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« on: June 28, 2006, 06:07:16 PM »
I had an Ariadne II for my old A4000 and it seemed to work pretty good. I was looking on Software Hut or Amigakit for one now and it appears that nobody sells them.

I did however see the X-Surf on sale at Amigakit. It appears to be a standard ISA card with an ingenius adapter for a Zorro slot. Does it work pretty good or should I keep looking for an Ariadne?
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Re: X-Surf of Ariadne II?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2006, 06:21:38 PM »
Go for XSurf without any esitation! It have current support from one of the most active Amiga components producer.

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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2006, 06:44:01 PM »
If you have ZorroIII get a Prometheus/Mediator4000
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2006, 07:09:23 PM »
@Gojirax

The Ariadne can only be bought second hand, while the X-Surf can be bought new as you have already seen. Both are 10 MBit cards, so speed between the two will be the same.

Only reason speaking for getting a X-Surf would be the clock ports, otherwise the cards do the job equally well.
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2006, 07:50:57 PM »
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@Gojirax

The Ariadne can only be bought second hand, while the X-Surf can be bought new as you have already seen. Both are 10 MBit cards, so speed between the two will be the same.

Only reason speaking for getting a X-Surf would be the clock ports, otherwise the cards do the job equally well.


I was wondering if either card had better bus function or transfer rate or supported better multitasking mostly. :)

I'll look at the X-Surf again as I like to support existing companies.

Just looked at the Mediator 4000Di from Amigakit.com
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=517&osCsid=0473c8da5abc42a4f74888920d336b0b

WOW, that fits inside an A4000 desktop and allows the use of all those PCI cards? (Video, Sound, Network, USB?!?!)

Does that work with the Toaster 4000 too?
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2006, 09:49:23 PM »
Yes, the Mediator will allow you the use of a range of PCI cards.

I think it works with the Toaster, but you'll lose your TBC since there are no ISA slots. Unless you can hack together a power adaptor.
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2006, 09:59:31 PM »
yeah, good luck finding what is the pin#1 on the x-surf clockport... lol :-D
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2006, 10:13:21 PM »
I don't have or plan to use a TBC anyway. If I actually DO wind up doing any work with the Toaster/Flyer it'll all be with digitized footage anyway.

http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/hardware/pciexp/mediatorz3.html&cart_id=4553106_23114

Software Hut appears to have the Mirage case/Mediator system, I can't believe how much it costs, but the savings in expansion cards makes it worth it!
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2006, 10:19:16 PM »
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I was wondering if either card had better bus function or transfer rate or supported better multitasking mostly. :)

Ironically it is one of the oldest ethernetcard available for the Amiga, the Commodore A2065, that is reported to be the fastest and less CPU intensive card.
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2006, 10:20:23 PM »
Of the choice between the X-Surf and Ariadne, I'd go with the Ariadne.  You might be interested to look around and find some benchmarks of various Amiga ethernet solutions.  I know we posted an X-Surf vs. old C= ethernet board comparison on here before...

The Mediator or Prometheus are probably the fastest and most modern solutions now, though.  (Of course, depending on how you want to set this stuff up, you may need a new case...)
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2006, 11:01:47 PM »
Just to clarify: You can not use the Video Toaster on the Mediator 4000Di (because there is no video slot!).
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2006, 11:05:46 PM »
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adolescent wrote:
Just to clarify: You can not use the Video Toaster on the Mediator 4000Di (because there is no video slot!).


Oh crud! :(

Ok, time to look at Mediator 1200 solutions for my PCI card enjoyment then...

Browse...browse....browse...

Looks like a D-Box 1200 and Mediator PCI 1200 LT4 is what I want... at least for PCI.

Still looking to upgrade the 4000 with (Zorro) Video and Ethernet.
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2006, 11:44:39 PM »
What about the x-surf2, I thought they were supposed to be 20mbit? Is there any advantage to the auto-negotiation of the x-surf2 to the ariadne2 card? I have the ariadne2 card and was looking at getting an xsurf2 if it was better.
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Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2006, 12:52:24 AM »
@Gojirax

The other A4000 Mediators have video slots.  It's just the desktop A4000Di that doesn't.
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Offline Matt_H

Re: X-Surf or Ariadne II?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2006, 12:52:25 AM »
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Just to clarify: You can not use the Video Toaster on the Mediator 4000Di (because there is no video slot!).

Whoops. I thought there was. Must have been another Mediator model/configuration I was thinking of.

Thanks for catching that.
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