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What to do with an Amiga 3000
« on: June 28, 2006, 12:24:32 AM »
I just purchased an Amiga 3000 from a member on here. I cannot wait to get it. I believe its a good stock unit in mint shape.

What are somethings I should do to pimp it out that wont cost too much.

I have scsi drive to add to it and memory is already added to the unit.

What kind of graphics colors should I expect?

If its the default 25mhz , is a CPU upgrade feasable and resonable?

How difficult is it to obtain either a Cybervision or Opalvision video card?

Any other suggestions? I want to mess with games and basic video stuff.

Thx
 

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2006, 01:18:17 AM »
Opalvision?  Why?  

The A3000 is a capable machine even stock.  Just plug in a VGA monitor, SCSI CD-ROM and big HD, and you're all set.
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2006, 02:32:21 AM »
Ultimately the question is "What do you want to do with any computer"?

For any kind of internet browsing (which, considering you've already posted here, you may have sewn up already) at high speed, a network card is a must.  The A3000 has SCSI built in so you *shouldn't* have too many issues getting mass storage working - it'll probably come with some order of hard drive; if not, well, what's $10 or so for a 4 gig HD?

As to what colors you should expect, the A3000's were all ECS equipped so 16 at higher resolutions, 32 or 64 for low res.

Myself, I'd recommend you get yourself a video card but that's just me.
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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2006, 02:47:30 AM »
is 4 gig the max size?

 

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2006, 03:21:08 AM »
That was the only thing that I disliked about my old A3000 was the Video card. 16 colors stinks. (Awesome for gaming though, and the built-in scandoubler rocked.)

I'd go with at least a Picasso II video card, that and an Ethernet card.
 

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2006, 10:12:26 AM »
Hi,

Any video card would be good to work around the ECS chipset's restrictions...

As for Ethernet... it's of some use, but given the state of Amiga web browsers, you won't really want to be doing much Internet browsing on it.

Still, Ethernet's useful for file transfers, as is a USB interface. Or perhaps do both with an X-Surf card plus Subway USB...

And the stock '030 CPU is OK but an '060 is much nicer! As above, it depends on what you want to do with it. It's unfortunately too easy to spend waaaay too many $$$$s or ££££s on old slow Amiga hardware!

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2006, 10:37:36 AM »
As for graphics card, a CyberVision 64 will be a good choice, since it has a build in monitor switcher, so you can just connect a loop cable from the A3000 scandoubler to the extra port on the CyberVision 64 graphics card. From then on, it's auto switching between screen modes, so no need to have a manual switchbox or a dual monitor setup. The card comes with 2 or 4 MB rtg memory. 2 MB will be an improvement over native Amiga video output, while 4 MB is the max graphics memory you can get with a Zorro graphics card.

As for ethernet cards, there a lot of good choice out there; X-Surf and Ariadne are the most common ethernet cards. Useful for connecting to the internet, FTP sites and Samba networking, but would be a bit of waste "just" for file transfering if you connect a SCSI CD drive to the computer.
 

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2006, 10:42:00 AM »
In response to the thread title:-

Give it to me!  :lol:
 

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2006, 10:51:19 AM »
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B00tDisk wrote:

Myself, I'd recommend you get yourself a video card but that's just me.
How does that videocard coexists with the internal scandoubler?
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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2006, 03:39:37 AM »
After you verify it works, you need to unplug it. Then open the case.

(1)Battery: is located to the left of the 8373 Denise IC. It's usually wrapped in green or blue plastic. Is it or the legs corroded. If corroded, this is your first problem. You will want to remove this battery, and attach leads to extend it away from the motherboard by placing the battery in a plastic medicine bottle.
(2) Remove all cards, daughterboard, drives, drive bays. You need to get down to the motherboard under the power supply. You want to write-down all the chips and their revisions. (The WD33C93C-04 is common, you'll need an -08). Others chips to note are the ROM 0, ROM 1, DMAC, Buster, Ramsey. Also look at J351 to the left of Ramsey PLL. Is this a 16 or 25 Mhz unit. There is an oscillator can, a 25Mhz unit uses a 50 Mhz can. There's also jumper J151 and J152 to the left of ROM 1.

A lot has been said by others, but these questions actually are the basic questions you need to answer. These answers determine basis issues like compatibility with drive size, SCSI cards, and processor cards.
SCSI drives are not cheap like EIDE drives. It's nice to have that 40 gig drive, but what if your ROM version and AmigaOS do not support that drive?
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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2006, 05:42:22 AM »
Much easier to just run WhichAmiga instead or removing the drive tray to get to the chips.  
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2006, 07:26:30 AM »
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
How does that videocard coexists with the internal scandoubler?


Most video cards (e.g. Cybervision64) have passthru ports, so you get:

Scan-doubled Amiga output ---> Video card in ---> Video card out ---> Monitor

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2006, 08:38:26 AM »
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uncharted wrote:
In response to the thread title:-

Give it to me!  :lol:


Funny that - when I saw the thread title and number of responses, I just knew someone would have said that. But I started reading through, and no one had....until I saw your post! I'm just so fcking good, give me a pat on the back ;-);-)
I like Amigas
 

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Re: What to do with an Amiga 3000
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2006, 09:00:23 AM »
Bah! I'm just too damn predictable!