Hyperion & OS4

[red_orion]

I'm only asking this question because I'm not up to date on the issues. Hyperion has developed OS4, but as I gather they can't release it except on offical hardware approved by Amiga INC, correct? Apperently no one can get in contact with Amiga Inc to get a license for hardware. Right? So how long does Hyperion have to sit on OS4 before they have a legal right to release it? Just curious.

[MoonSire]

There is currently NO problem getting in contact with Amiga Inc.

[Lemmink]

The problem ist not getting in contact, but getting in contract. Just give them a little bit more money then you would be able to make from your sales in the next lets say....400 years and you`ll get a license, no problem.

[red_orion]

Ok, so... if no one get a contract for hardware, how long does Hyperion have to sit on OS4 before they can do something with it? Or is it most likely to just get shelved?? Sorry for the questions but I drifted out of the Amiga scene for several years.

[maffoo]

My understanding is that Hyperion can't do anything with it unless Amiga Inc. goes bust before they release the final version. Should that happen all rights will default to Hyperion, who can then do something useful with it (I'm hoping that they'v been developing an x86 version alongside the PPC version, a la OSX, which they will release once Amiga Inc. bites the dust. Nothing wrong with a bit of wishful thinking :-) )

Out of interest, what's keeping Amiga Inc. going? They can't be getting any revenue from AmigaOS (with there being no hardware and all), are they really selling enough PDA games to stay afloat?

[Tomas]

red_orion wrote:
I'm only asking this question because I'm not up to date on the issues. Hyperion has developed OS4, but as I gather they can't release it except on offical hardware approved by Amiga INC, correct? Apperently no one can get in contact with Amiga Inc to get a license for hardware. Right? So how long does Hyperion have to sit on OS4 before they have a legal right to release it? Just curious.

Some people have tried contacting Amiga INC regarding issues, but it seems like it was negative or none reply most of the times. Adam from ACK on the other hand said in irc interview that getting license was no problem..
So i honestly dunno.

I have also heard that in the even that Amiga INC cease to exist, the rights for AmigaOS4>up will be in the hands of hyperion. This is why some people hope they go bankrupt.

[huronking]

I havent been tuning in much either- what became of Amiga being split into the KMOS thing?

[drHirudo]

All the people who tried to get license for AmigaOS 4 on Pegasos boards, miserably failed, because of past events which are too long to be depicted here, but they are understandable. People who want license for other PPC hardware than the Pegasos have no problem. The problem is "there is no other PPC hardware on the market".
So AmigaOS4 is in stagnation now, until a new PPC motherboards manifacturer magicly appears, which is unlikelu

[Piru]

@huronking

what became of Amiga being split into the KMOS thing?

Initially the Amiga, Inc- announcement only mentioned that the operating system would have been sold to KMOS, Inc.

However, later KMOS renamed itself to Amiga, Inc. Same company, same people, different legal entity.

Typical trick to get rid of debts, and other legal obligations (such as paying old employees).

[huronking]

Thanks- yeah that makes sense.

[Tigger]

MoonSire wrote:
There is currently NO problem getting in contact with Amiga Inc.

Thats funny, I havent heard from them, are you telling us you have??  There are lots of others owed money by AI who have tried to get ahold of them, have they paid all those debts now and I just missed the messages about it, or are they still hiding from their debtors??
   -Tig

[Glittering]

Adam from ACK on the other hand said in irc interview that getting license was no problem.

Adam Kowalczyk is hardly a person to believe after his last stunt, but then again apart from Amigakit there is ZERO professional Amiga companies left.

[Lando]

Glittering wrote:

Adam from ACK on the other hand said in irc interview that getting license was no problem.

Adam Kowalczyk is hardly a person to believe after his last stunt, but then again apart from Amigakit there is ZERO professional Amiga companies left.

There are still people like E3B, Vesalia, Individual Computers, KDH Datentechnik, and Elbox (ignoring their 'vapor' announcements for a moment, their existing products are good and they have good customer service).