will troika amy 05 be a good board?

[Kronos]

Legerdemain wrote:
 A 'trollish' attitude won't help matters the slighest, you know.

You mean what the Amiga needs is just a little bit more blind belief and fanatism so we can get feeded with more BS spoon by spoon ?

[Legerdemain]

You mean what the Amiga needs is just a little bit more blind belief and fanatism so we can get feeded with more BS spoon by spoon ?

No.

Blind belief and fanatism doesn't make things better.

There is nothing wrong with being sceptical. And there is nothing wrong with pointing out ones scepticism. But there is a big difference between doing it in a constructive way or in a 'trollish' way.

I made a choice to answer your post this way; further describing my point of view. I could, however, have looked upon your post as a bait for me to react to and thus have answered something like "Are you an idiot? That is not what I wrote! If you feel like reading things into my posts, things that actually isn't there to be found, then you can shut the {bleep} up!", or something the like, but that would have been a 'trollish' attitude, non-constructive, and nothing good would have come out of it. I just don't see the point in using that kind of attitude.

I don't know your point of view. But, when reading your reaction to my post, I have to ask: do you think it is okay (or a good thing) to react in the same way as Glittering did (calling the hospitalization of Adams father a hoax, without even having certified what is true or not)?

[Tigger]

Actually they finally got the onboard sound chips to work and somebody batch-ordered more for the people that didn't get them.  Assuming you're not banned from AmigaWorld.net you could have been informed of this.

Which caused me to laugh for a very long time and the ineptitude of Hyperion and Eyetech.   This is the hardware they picked for the system, and 18 months after they deliver the hardware (and after they have delivered the majority without the chip).   We get a 3rd party delivering a driver that finally makes it work.  Do you realize how bad this is in the scheme of things?

Also, the DMA thing had to do with the caches not updating automatically when a DMA took place which is just what happened when the classic Amiga did DMAs so is it any wonder that the problems only occured under Linux and not AmigaOS?

I'm sorry unless you actually understand the issue, have actually put MAI parts on a scope and watched the crap they do, dont every argue they work correctly.  Thats a different opinion then the engineers at my company, at Rockwell, at Genesi, the Barbie folks etc have.   There is a reason MAI is out of business.

The mortality rate is another story, however, and I agree that those CPU modules and cooling fans need improvement as a result.  I believe that's ACK Software Controls' first order of business as soon as Dad gets better.

New CPU boards dont help when there are less then 1000 running boards of 3 varieties and that number is heading towards 0 and won't recover.   Its great that ACK may build CPU cards to replace those that died, the fact that the Teron boards themselves are gone in 1/2 the cases show this solution won't fix the problem
    -Tig

[Manu]

AGSzabo wrote:

Manu wrote:
...others re-inventing the wheel.... ... it was something new That was different....

why the wheel?

Yes. Why, I can't see the point when the world is full
of hardware. On-the-shelf hardware is four years late now.

the way amiga os 4 boots is in fact something new. the os 4 is the best operating system ever (see libraries coding). someone is rich if what he has is enough.

I'm sure OS4 is good, boots fast etc,  but when there has
been problems getting new hardware for over a year then some
bells should start to ring.

the new amiga os 4 mainboards  are good enough with what
they have on them. you do not need so called newer or "better" hardware.

The mainboards aren't being sold, it's good enough for those
that have them and runs OS4 on them but that is history
now. I'm not sure what you mean with "better" hardware, but
I agree that we can manage with slower processors etc. but
then the pricing should be accordingly if it is of interest
to grow the userbase.
 

[AGSzabo]

as far i see the new boards are going to be sold. is there any known reason why the amigaone is currently not sold?

[Doobrey]

AGSzabo wrote:
is there any known reason why the amigaone is currently not sold?

Yup.. they're not being made anymore,Eyetech quit the Amiga scene in a hissy fit last year.
Have a search about on Amigaworld.net for more info

[Tigger]

AGSzabo wrote:
as far i see the new boards are going to be sold. is there any known reason why the amigaone is currently not sold?

Boards can no longer be manufactured, and havent been made in 18 months now, last new board sold over a year ago.   With half a dozen DOAs repaired and made available last fall, the so called Italy boards.
     -Tig