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MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« on: June 13, 2006, 07:25:45 PM »
I'm planning on getting a Pegasos2 system, And from what I've been reading MorphOS/Pegasos2 can run Amiga software! I know there will be afew exceptions to this rule. But before I go diving in and buying a complete new system. I was wondering what Amiga software I could use on MorphOS/Pegasos2? example I'm guessing most of the Amiga games like payback,nightlong,heretic2 etc etc will run on MorphOS/Pegasos2 without major problems? Also would I be able to use programs such as ppaint,dpaint,soundtracker  and whdload for some of the non AGA games?

And does anyone here have the peg2 and what do you think about it?

Thanks in advance for any help :-D
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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2006, 07:34:14 PM »
You should be able to run any Amiga software that is OS-friendly and doesn't rely on the custom chips. Unfortunately this rules out most games (although they should run under e-uae emulation.)
 

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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2006, 07:50:06 PM »
If I were you I'd try out the free MorphOS download on that PowerPC accelerated A1200 mentioned in your SIG first since most of what you said you wanted to run would require EUAE to function at all on the Peg2.

Remember that EUAE only has a JIT compiler for the Intel versions.  The PowerPC versions use interpreted only.  You'd have no better luck with MorphOS than AOS 4.0 at getting any decent performance but at least you wouldn't have to wait for new hardware.

-edit- Not sure if MorphOS supports the Mediator bus expander on the A1200.
 

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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2006, 07:53:54 PM »
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-edit- Not sure if MorphOS supports the Mediator bus expander on the A1200.


It doesn't.
 

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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2006, 07:54:10 PM »
Thanks maffoo:-D,  

Has anyone tryed e-uae under Morph0S? and is morphos/peg2 a good machine for gaming? and i would still like to hear what you guys think about morphos/peg2 as my goal is to have a replacment PC

@SamuraiCrow

Thank you,I've got 2 BPPC amigas one has the bvision, so I'll try the Amiga Morph version out and see how i get on.
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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2006, 08:38:12 PM »
I had a Pegasos for a while, e-uae worked pretty well but it was nowhere near as good as WinUAE.

TBH, I wasn't overly impressed with MorphOS. It looked nice and was responsive, but for it to be much use to me it needed a decent web browser (I'm too spoilt by Firefox) and a modern office suite (I'm spoilt by OpenOffice.org.) At least with a classic Amiga there's nostalgic value and native games. IMHO MorphOS is a great hobby OS with a lot of potential, but that's it. I lost interest in it once I got my new iMac.

(I know a lot of people here won't agree with me, but I'm just giving my opinion, not trying to start a flamewar.)
 

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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2006, 08:50:10 PM »
Thank you again maffoo for your honest review on morphos :-D
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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2006, 09:02:09 PM »
If you run MorphOS on an A1200 with a BPPC, can you still run Classic software which needs the custom chips? (Read: WHDLoad :-) )

edit: without booting into AmigaOS

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2006, 09:14:17 PM »
MorphOS runs lots of AmigaOS software and games:

Myst 68k
Napalm 68k
Payback 68k
Quake 68k
TvPaint 68k
Dpaintt 5 68k (works, but but but)
Cinema 4D 68k
Photogenics 68k
WebMaker 68k
AmIRC 68k
Wookiechat 68k
iBrowse 68k
Miami/MiamiDx 68k
Genesis 68k
ClassAct 68k
+++

As you see, lots of AmigaOS software works. There is also nice native programs for it:

AmiNetRadio V4 PPC -music player, supports mp3, ogg, mod...
SongPlayer -music player, supports mp3 and ogg etc
MPlayer PPC -multimedia player, divx, xvid, avi, mpeg etc..
MOSnet 1.2 -native tcp/ip stack
Blender -3D making software, native
fXpaint 2.0 -great graphic program
VooDoo-X -great file archiver program. All in one
Ripper -nice music ripper
Titler -great 3D titler program
Virtua Grand Prix 2 -3D native racing game
Quake 3 -3D FPS ported game
WipeOut 2097 -3D flightracing game
QuakeMOS -Quake native
+++

There you have a small guide.
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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2006, 09:15:26 PM »
MorphOS is a very nice system, Ambient the user interface gets updated almost daily and is making great progress. If you don't like Ambient there's also Scalos wich is pretty good and very Amiga like.

Shogo, Heretic II, Wipeout, Quake 2 and Freespace run very well, no problems on my system. There are also other games like Quake III, Hexen II and Virtual Grand Prix available.

E-UAE runs most demo's and games fullspeed on a Pegasos, the speed of E-UAE is about 50% of a stock Amiga 4000. The waiting is for JIT to make the most of it.

Most Amiga programs run on MorphOS as long as they don't make use of the custom chips of the Amiga. I'm running TVPaint, Directory Opus and a lot of other Amiga programs on my Pegasos.

And yes it's true there's not a modern browser or office packet available for it but that aplies to all Amiga's including A-One and OS4. But there's hope, KHTML is just around the corner :)

It's even possible to run OS4 programs on MorphOS but I have not tried that because IMHO there's no need to run OS4 software on MorphOS.

The Pegasos II board itself is pretty nice and supported by various Linux distro's, I'm running Ubuntu Dapper Drake myself.

 

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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2006, 09:37:22 PM »
I kinda feel that Pegasos is the right Amiga platform. Though in my deepest dreams, Classic Amiga with ColdFire is the thing, but it will never happend ;/

MorphOS is AmigaOS. It`s got the feeling, its MUI based and has an active Ambient developing theme.

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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2006, 10:06:55 PM »
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AmiDelf wrote:
I kinda feel that Pegasos is the right Amiga platform. Though in my deepest dreams, Classic Amiga with ColdFire is the thing, but it will never happend ;/

MorphOS is AmigaOS. It`s got the feeling, its MUI based and has an active Ambient developing theme.



I kind of agree with you there :-) Not Because I own a Pegasos but because I think the Pegasos/MorphOS combo is underestimated because it hasn't got the brand name. If you want a next gen Amiga system now, the Pegasos/MorphOS is the only way to go.

And yeah a Coldfire in my A4000 would be nice, but unfortunally it would never happen :cry:
 

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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2006, 10:26:49 PM »
just to give my 2 pennies worth I have an a1200, BlizzPPC 603e @240mhz / 060@50mhz, 256mb, G-Rex, Voodoo 3 3000, Terratec PCI 128, Realtek 8139 100mb plus other stuff but my points are.
MorphOS is the only operating system I now have installed on this. The other is I bought the G-Rex, Voodoo 3 3000, Teratec PCI 128 and Realtek 8139 because I liked MorphOS so much and this hardware is fully supported without messing. Just to give an indication when I changed from BlizzVision to Voodoo I changed no settings or installed nothing I just switched on and got a screen instantly. There was no messing in pal modes first then switching screen modes, I just turned it on and the card was detected instantly.
If the opportunity comes to buy MorphOs for Powerup and recieve the same level of support the peg owners are getting I will jump at the chance.

It the best piece of software my amiga has seen
 

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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2006, 10:27:40 PM »
Thanks for all the advice guys, one things that I'm wondering about is

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MorphOS runs lots of AmigaOS software and games:

Myst 68k
Napalm 68k
Payback 68k
Quake 68k


Should'nt the PPC versions work on morphOS? also I'm sure I came across some kind of warp emulation for morphOS? or did I just make that last bit up :lol:
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Re: MorphOS/Pegasos2?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2006, 10:29:13 PM »
most ppc software does work and warp emulation is built in aswell as warp3d emulation which usually runs faster.