microcrapintel... No Thanks!

[stopthegop]

"And then there was one..."

This merging of Microsoft and Apple was entirely predictable; nauseating, but somehow stimulating because they so richly deserve each other.  Bad marries worse.  May their union grow to be as big as...?  Well, as big as the Titanic.  True innovation in computer development is dying, if not dead, under the weight of these two alleged "competitors": co-conspirators is more like it.  Two bloated, greedy monoliths consolidated into one massive, reaking blob of self-interested power.  

I'm not saying that technolgy hasn't progressed in the last 15 or so years.  Clearly it has.  But only for one (ok, two)platform(s)!  The small company with a great original idea doesn't stand a chance; the idea will either be bought immediately, then buried or it will be stolen outright and included free in the next version of Wincintosh.  I don't see what is so "innovative" about selling, say, a 1.0Ghz chip one week and calling it things like "breakthrough", "cutting edge", "all new", "totally redesigned", etc.. then the following week introducing the same exact chip, only with a slighly higher voltage applied to its master clock ocillator and a few pin re-assignments to make it incompatible with all previous versions, and describe it in those exact same terms.  Week after week, month after month, year after year.  The 2.5ghz PC that I own today running Windows is basically the same slow, crash-prone piece of {bleep} that I had in 1994.  Ditto for all the years in-between.  Software is even worse.  We went to the moon on 64K, but now we need 100 Meg just to send email.  Thats progress?  

The consolidation in the computer industry at this point seems inevitable.  Microsoft likes to call it "competing".  With whom?  I grew up in Missouri.  We had a term for it.  Its called inbreading.  I'll keep my Amigas as long as they're legal!  Cheers

[AmiKit]

...it's called evolution. Simply if there are no limits, dinosaurs still grow and grow. The bigger the better, you know Only some kind of "asteroid" can bring the optimization era back again.

[adz]

stopthegop wrote:
"And then there was one..."

This merging of Microsoft and Apple was entirely predictable; nauseating, but somehow stimulating because they so richly deserve each other.  Bad marries worse.  May their union grow to be as big as...?  Well, as big as the Titanic.  True innovation in computer development is dying, if not dead, under the weight of these two alleged "competitors": co-conspirators is more like it.  Two bloated, greedy monoliths consolidated into one massive, reaking blob of self-interested power.

Merge??? Are you refering to "Boot Camp"? If so, I personally would call that offering the end user more choice.  

I'm not saying that technolgy hasn't progressed in the last 15 or so years.  Clearly it has.  But only for one (ok, two)platform(s)!  The small company with a great original idea doesn't stand a chance; the idea will either be bought immediately, then buried or it will be stolen outright and included free in the next version of Wincintosh.  I don't see what is so "innovative" about selling, say, a 1.0Ghz chip one week and calling it things like "breakthrough", "cutting edge", "all new", "totally redesigned", etc.. then the following week introducing the same exact chip, only with a slighly higher voltage applied to its master clock ocillator and a few pin re-assignments to make it incompatible with all previous versions, and describe it in those exact same terms.

What exactly does that have to do with Microsoft and Apple? Ahhh, now I see, we've moved onto Intel bashing, hmmm, is that an "axis of evil" I see forming?

Week after week, month after month, year after year.  The 2.5ghz PC that I own today running Windows is basically the same slow, crash-prone piece of {bleep} that I had in 1994.  Ditto for all the years in-between.  Software is even worse.  We went to the moon on 64K, but now we need 100 Meg just to send email.  Thats progress?

I'm yet to see my current Windows box crash and it runs oh so much faster than anything I have owned previous, I wish my A1200 was as stable. As for 100Mbps connections for email, I only have 10Mbps and email works perfectly fine :-D  

The consolidation in the computer industry at this point seems inevitable.  Microsoft likes to call it "competing".  With whom?  I grew up in Missouri.  We had a term for it.  Its called inbreading.  I'll keep my Amigas as long as they're legal!  Cheers

Not much the end user can really do about it, but there are alternatives to Windows and we are free to choose what we want to run. I personally use a whole variety or operating systems, Windows, MacOS, Linux, BSD, AmigaOS, they each serve their purpose and have all served me well. So see, we do have a choice, just open your eyes.

[odin]

Drugs are bad....

[Oliver]

odin wrote:
Drugs are bad....

 :lol: Haha.  I was looking for a good reply for this topic.  Damn funny.

[stopthegop]

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Merge??? Are you refering to "Boot Camp"? If so, I personally would call that offering the end user more choice.
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Last I checked Bill Gates owned ~20% of Apple's (not a majority stake, but quite possibly a plurality stake?) stock.  Correspondingly, Steve Jobs owns (or has owned) a significant chunk of MS stock. I'm honestly not sure if this is still the case, but if I was betting I would stake that they each still do.  Wasn't Microsoft, back in the 90s, Apple Corp's "Angel Investor?", saving them from certain bankruptcy.  Oops, what I meant to say was they are in fact "competitors".... uh hu.   You are right about choice.  I go to a computer store and they give me a choice.  Wintel or the door.  And yea, Mac...  Just for argument's sake, I'll cede the point and agree that Mac was indeed a choice (albeit a lousy one).  I said was a choice.  Now even Macs use intel chips and run Windows without emulation.  So where's my choice now?   If it looks like a PC and runs the same software as a PC and uses exactly the same hardware as a PC, then...  Its a PC!  If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....    



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I'm yet to see my current Windows box crash and it runs oh so much faster than anything I have owned previous, I wish my A1200 was as stable. As for 100Mbps connections for email, I only have 10Mbps and email works perfectly fine  
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My first Amiga was a 500 in 1987 (maybe it was '88?).  After that an A4000.  I had never even SEEN a crash until I got a PC.  I know of numerous organizations that have Amiga computers in production to this day precisely because they do not crash.  They are still widely used in PLC environments (factories, mechanical automation, assembly line, robotics, etc..).  The US FRB uses them to maintain "absolute, 100%, 7x24x365" uptime of currency monitoring systems.  Nasa uses them (although I'm not so sure thats an endorsement anymore?).    Anyway, if your 1200 is crashing something isn't configured right.    



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Not much the end user can really do about it, but there are alternatives to Windows and we are free to choose what we want to run. I personally use a whole variety or operating systems, Windows, MacOS, Linux, BSD, AmigaOS, they each serve their purpose and have all served me well. So see, we do have a choice, just open your eyes.
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You're right about that.  But I reserve the right to {bleep} about it.    Of the systems you listed, which one really stands out to you as truly being different?   Only the Amiga.  The others are genetic mutations of each other.  At least imho.  It would be like buying a car and, say, Ford was the dominant manufacturer.  Every car dealer would only carry Fords, but you'd have a "choice" between a Ford Escort, a Ford Truck, a Ford Sedan, or a Ford Escape.  If you didn't want any of these, you could also buy a Lincoln (which, unknown to many consumers, is owned by Ford).   Problem is Lincoln has less than 5% market share, so its more difficult to find parts for plus 3/4 of all gas stations don't sell gas that will work in a Lincoln....  etc.  

[stopthegop]

D.A.R.E.
Drugs are really excellent.  

[stopthegop]

I don't see what is so "innovative" about selling, say, a 1.0Ghz chip one week and calling it things like "breakthrough", "cutting edge", "all new", "totally redesigned", etc.. then the following week introducing the same exact chip, only with a slighly higher voltage applied to its master clock ocillator and a few pin re-assignments to make it incompatible with all previous versions, and describe it in those exact same terms.

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Ahhh, now I see, we've moved onto Intel bashing, hmmm, is that an "axis of evil" I see forming?
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That is not Intel bashing.  Thats the truth.

[_ThEcRoW]

So your Amiga never showed to you a guru?.
by the way, with winuae i'm running the fastest Amiga ever and  also i have AROS.

[stopthegop]

Not my 500, never once crashed.  The 4000 did occasionally, sure.  but a lot of the time it was my own fault.  I was gaining confidence with it, writing c code, and in general trying to do more things.  So yes, I succeeded on several occasions in getting my A4000 to crash.  But it never did so without my help.  I can't say the same for the many PCs I've owned and the few I actually paid money for.  PCs and Macs are free here in Brooklyn on Mondays and Thursdays: Trash day.

[stopthegop]

The speed thing is nice, but way overrated.   Speed ratings are usually just fallic substitutes (bragging rights) for adolescent boys who play video games all the time.  I'm way too old to qualify for that demographic..  As such, to say modern PCs are "faster" than Amigas is a true statement.  But that does not mean Amigas aren't fast.  Mine sure is.  Fast enough, anyway.  A computer isn't necessarily "slow" only because of the existance something faster.  Last month's PC was considered fast, Last month.  But this month, that same PC becomes "slow" the moment a faster one is released.  That kind thinking is really nutso.  Absurd, bordering on pathalogical imho.  But boy does it ever work on a gullible public.  I sure wish I'd bought Intel stock when the brainwashing began.  Anthropologists will study this strange behavior in 10,000 years..

[N7VQM]

stopthegop wrote:
Not my 500, never once crashed.

Are you the luckiest person on earth or do you not do anything with your computer?  I tend to believe the latter.  Not turning the computer on is a sure-fire way to avoid the guru.

[Crisisdog]

stopthegop wrote:

I don't see what is so "innovative" about selling, say, a 1.0Ghz chip one week and calling it things like "breakthrough", "cutting edge", "all new", "totally redesigned", etc.. then the following week introducing the same exact chip, only with a slighly higher voltage applied to its master clock ocillator and a few pin re-assignments to make it incompatible with all previous versions, and describe it in those exact same terms.  

Hahaha!  That's why I overclock!  Isn't it the same principal, just upping the voltage and oscillator speed?  Silly rabbit...

 :crazy:

In all reality, I've never had any major Windows issues since the Windows 95 days.  Yeah, Microsoft is the big monopoly, but they eventually made it easy as far as the simplicity of setting up a PC, loading drivers, and installing applications.  I've taken a few wacks at Linux, and find it to be terribly confusing with all its dependencies when trying to get something installed.  In my opinion, Linux is only popular because it is free.

In the past, I've also dealt with BeOS and IBM OS/2.  Both were excellent operating systems, but due to a lack of consumer support, both have virtually disappeared, just like the AmigaOS.  If anything is to blame for the lack of variety, it's the stupidity of the end user who buys into the monopoly with the reasoning that everyone else is doing it, so it must be good.

[srg86]

N7VQM wrote:

stopthegop wrote:
Not my 500, never once crashed.

Are you the luckiest person on earth or do you not do anything with your computer?  I tend to believe the latter.  Not turning the computer on is a sure-fire way to avoid the guru.

Agreed, If I had £1 for every guru I ever had, I'd be rich!

[_yak_]

The AmigaOS itself is quite bug-free and doesn't hang. Maybe if someones uses just the OS and some perfectly working software written by himself (Nasa?) then Amiga is stable. But we, users, use a lot of programs written by so called bedroom programmers (I'm one of them ) that contain many bugs and cause GURUs sometimes. Its beacause of that today the AmigaOS isn't considered so stable anymore.