Mozilla on AOS4

[DaveP]

I had spare cash. Fortunately before I got a rush of blood
to the head I went and bought a house with it.

My favourite hobby is not using Opera thats for sure. Not
my favourite UI. The last Opera I used I really had to correct
myself everytime I went for one of the navigation buttons ( back/forward ) and more often than not ended up closing a window because I did not stop myself in time.

That and the freakin' adverts in the top right window sucking up my precious bandwidth.

[PPCRulez]

Opera v7 is by far the best browser on the market. No other browser even comes close.  It's fast, small, and has loads of really handy features. The tab browsing and mouse-gestures is something I can't live without, it makes browsing so much smoother. The partial rendering (the way it starts to render the page while it's still loading it, unlike Mozilla) is by far the best of all browsers. The pop-up killer is also great. With my current setting it only opens user-requested pop-ups, and it works just great. Pop-ups are a thing of the past since I started to use Opera v7.

The adverts are just in the free version, if you register the advets will be gone. And Opera is certainly worth the small price of $39.

It would be great with a native OS4 Opera version. I would easily pay $100 for that.

[DaveP]

Why dont you set up a paypal account and everyone who wants to donate can donate. Then if they come up with the
50k+ required to hire even a vaguely competant programmer
for a year then hire someone to do the port. ;-)

[thing_from_space]

Mozilla is being stripped apart and will eventually be discontinued. In it's stead will be a pure browser project and a pure mail/news reader project.

Firebird (formerly Phoenix) is the a Gecko based browser replacement. It's lean, fast and every bit as powerful as Mozilla, which I consider to have the most standards compliant  and stablist rendering engine. Opera, IE, and the Amiga browsers pale in comparison. I know because I've used all of them extensively.

Firebird, like Mozilla, has the most advanced collection of privacy and security features ever introduced. I cringe every time I'm forced to use IE with all the pop-ups and stealth cookies.

Firebird (and Mozilla) also supports add-ons like Optimoz, which gives Mouse gesture abilities to the browser. There's at least 2 or 3 dozon other add-ons you can use also.

Granted, Firebird is still in beta, but every nightly build shows improvements on speed and features.

Finally, the best thing about Mozilla and Firebird are that they are both opensource and free. Amiga wouldn't need to pay a dime to port the browser to our new platform.

The Web was ment to be free as in beer and speech, and so should web browsers.

IE sets the standerds... it dosent follow them...

[amigamad]

Ive been using opera registered version for ages now i would love a port of the best browser available.

[mikeymike]

@ sTix

What version of Mozilla are you using?  Mozilla has come a seriously long way in a short while.  Ideally you should be using 1.2.1 or 1.3.

[Quixote]

Mips_Proc Mis_Pronounced:

IE sets the standerds... it dosent follow them...

;-) Nope; the W3C sets the standards.  But you're half right, Mips; I.E. doesn't follow them....

[mikeymike]

@ mips_proc

IE sets the standerds... it dosent follow them...

I'm sure Microsoft would love to hear you and more people say that :-)

IE has about as in touch with the standards as a tequila worm is with reality!  Browse around www.w3.org, particularly the CSS section with IE 6x, Mozilla 1.3 and Opera 7x, and also the Complexspiral Demo.  IE's attempt at rendering some of these pages is an absolute joke compared to how good they look in standards-compliant web browsers like Mozilla and Opera 7x.

I know about W3... but if you're making any serious site you make it IE compatible... since 95+ % of the internet is useing IE...

I know it's easy to argue... but all the goodies where IE first ... netscape/mozilla  second...and everyone else still struggleing...since in the end its the % of people  useing what that determines what to make your site for IE is always on top so far... there is no point in a dot-com web store making itself anything but IE compatible... unless of course they cater to a niche market suchas Amiga or RiscOS or some alternative...

and I know it's possible to make a website not render proper with IE... but that guy better update his website... because it rendered flawless on the latest IE I'm running here... everything on his site was perfect..the demo wasnt showing any flaws in IE

Opera is better then IE IMHO but it costs 40$ and I wouldnt spend that on a browser... when IE gets the job done.

[Tomas]

That odd... Cause its fast here, both on linux and on windows. Takes a tad longer time to start up than IE, but thats because IE is allready running in memory.... But on browsing, its actually way faster than IE, both browsing and downloads....

[Tomas]

And Opera can you just forger, its not open source, its shareware.... So we wont have any opera unless Opera themself ports it to AmigaOS, which Opera stated clearly that they would not do, cause of the small userbase...

[Tomas]

I know about W3... but if you're making any serious site you make it IE compatible... since 95+ % of the internet is useing IE...

Why do you think 95% uses it? Cause of webmasters like YOU! If webmasters followed the standards, then ppl would actually have a reason to change to a "real" browser like mozilla, which follows the standards, unless m$ themself starts following the standards then.

[mikeymike]

@ mips_proc

When designing a website, you should check the most likely target browsers.  If you run a website with Amiga-related stuff, you should be checking with Amiga-based browsers as well.  I don't give any particular special priority to making sure that everything works in IE, I check with IE6, Opera 7, Mozilla, and IBrowse when I do any web design.


And here's a hilarious one - very recently (it is fixed now), the MS support site worked *better* with Opera 7 than it did IE :-)  If you go to
the MS support site, and try to do a search for just Windows 2000, in IE you couldn't see it in the list, in Opera you could :-)

[mikeymike]

@ Tomas

Why do you think 95% uses it? Cause of webmasters like YOU!

There's a bigger reason before that - MS bundling IE with Windows.

[Tomas]

mikeymike wrote:
@ Tomas

Why do you think 95% uses it? Cause of webmasters like YOU!

There's a bigger reason before that - MS bundling IE with Windows.

Very true... But if webmasters didnt care too much about the special IE "standards" then ppl would finally see other browsers as a better alternative to IE, since IE dosent render the websites right.