Mozilla on AOS4

[sTix]

I've been using Mozilla on the A1XE for a week now and
all I can say is: It's dead slow! It's eating huge amounts
of memory. Do we really want this as our main browser
for our new Amigas? I definetly don't!  

Well, I know it has great support for everything thats out
there and thats nice but I would much rather see a
continued development of the current Amiga browsers.
Fact is when it comes to speed Mozilla is crap compared
to IBrowse or Voyager and I'm afraid I can't blame Linux
(since everything but Mozilla is really responsive).



 :ranting:

[Paul_Gadd]

I do not like Mozilla at all because it feels to sluggish and really is slow when compared to the rest.

The browser what i would like to see ported to Amiga has to be Opera, good, fast, non bloat browser with loads of features, but the Opera developers said they wont atm and i agree with their choice.

[ne_one]

Running Mozilla under Linux isn't quite the same thing as using the rendering engine to develop a standalone browser.

Bottom line: if you don't like the application you don't have to use it. Running a half-baked native implementation doesn't quite cut it.

I agree with Paul... OS4 needs a browser like Opera... maybe if they took AWeb and did a re-workover of it or something?... I dunno... I agree about mozilla though... I dont even like it on Linux on X86... on a P4 1.8 it seems slower handleing then AWeb on an 030...

I think when OS4 gets done and out the Opera team may re-consider though... they need a development platform so it's best they wait if their going to port it.

[Ilwrath]

I agree with Paul... OS4 needs a browser like Opera... maybe if they took AWeb and did a re-workover of it or something?... I dunno... I agree about mozilla though... I dont even like it on Linux on X86... on a P4 1.8 it seems slower handleing then AWeb on an 030...

Uhm... Yeah.... I'm going to have to just go ahead and... uhm... disagree with you, there.  Yeah....

Mozilla is bit slower at rendering pages than some other browsers... But what does it matter how FAST a browser renders a page, when it renders it WRONG???  Mozilla and it's offshoots are the most complete browsers out there.  Opera also would be acceptable, in my book (it's much more complete than any current Amiga browser!), but it ain't gonna happen.  AWeb, iB, V aren't really very close.  Heck, they have trouble with Amiga.org, a site dedicated to Amiga, and TRYING to be Amiga friendly.  Moz is the only solution I see as possible to happen.

[DaveP]

Ive been using Mozilla for about 6 months on Linux
on a similarly specced machine as the A1 ( this time
a laptop ) and it flies.

Maybe something is wrong with your distributions
configuration?

[Darth_X]

I think when OS4 gets done and out the Opera team may re-consider though... they need a development platform so it's best they wait if their going to port it.

Why wait? Maybe there are a few Pegasos boards around for a group like Opera. However.. I suspect it will cost a bit of $$$ to pay for the port of Opera :-D

As for Mozilla, watch what happens with their firebird (formerly known as phoenix) browser. I've tried it and it appears to be fine on a Celery400. However, they seriously need to put in some kind of auto screen refresher .

[Darth_X]

@DaveP

Have you coded applications for AmigaOS that use MUI?

[DaveP]

Yeah, why wait when they can use AROS or
AmigaForever running GCC or something. ;-)

If they *must* I suppose they could use the Pegasos boards to run something they might like - Linux - and use gcc on that to compile for AOS4 or even run
UAE on that.... ;-)

[DaveP]

@Darth_X

Why do you ask?

I have talked about this before online but I don't recall
precisely where. I never got on with MUI as a developer it had its 30 minutes of fame. Im sure if someone had contracted me to do a proper development project on MUI I would have forced myself and probably would have ended up really liking it but that never happenned.

DaveP  

so you're saying compared to other browsers... e.g IE,Opera,Konqueror,etc that you think Mozilla flies then?.. I'm not saying it's 'horrible' old netscape takes that cake... but Opera seems faster on every platform I've used it... so it would seem more logical as a commercial one...

Mozilla is fine though... it's a world better then Aweb... just a shade slower...

[DaveP]

@mips_proc

I never said it was faster than any other browser but they are now all so close to each other ( Moz/Opera/Konqueror/IE ) that there is little to choose.

Lets put it this way, when I use konqueror it is one
of the fastest but one of the buggiest ( your Support The Troops animations completly #### its I/O thread up ).

When I use Mozilla I am confident that there are few sites if any that will not work.

When I use AWEB I think ... f**k this is slow.

[Darth_X]

It will be nice when AROS can replace Linux.. one of these years... ;-)

Yeah, why wait when they can use AROS or
AmigaForever running GCC or something.

Wouldn't they still need someone to pay for the port, right? So maybe you DaveP have a bit of extra cash and can shove a few *bills* into their pockets to pay for this port, like spending money on a favorite hobby? ;-)

:pint: OK.. so is it *bills* or *bucks* :roflmao:

DaveP

you're logic is sound...cant argue with that... but darn I really do wish Opera would find it's way onto our platforms of choice...

[DaveP]

I had spare cash. Fortunately before I got a rush of blood
to the head I went and bought a house with it.

My favourite hobby is not using Opera thats for sure. Not
my favourite UI. The last Opera I used I really had to correct
myself everytime I went for one of the navigation buttons ( back/forward ) and more often than not ended up closing a window because I did not stop myself in time.

That and the freakin' adverts in the top right window sucking up my precious bandwidth.