Newtek, What an awesome company

[Tomas]

I was more talking about the raw cpu capabilities. Yes, i know the amigaos is much more responsive, but this wont help much when it comes to pure cpu power. If the recommended requirements are anywhere near right, then both the g3 and g4 will be quite behind. And i also have some doubts about the capabilities of the chipset.

[Raffaele]

Framiga wrote:
no way without:

"Full Open OpenGL and DirectX 9.0 support"

Wait, wait, wait. We need software for Amiga, not software for PC.

DirectX 9 is not necessary.

At least we need a good port of OpenGL, because then we will able to run same 2D/3d transitions of video wipes.

I hope that TinyGL and Mini-GL are worked on to improve more and more features upto catch mainstream OpenGL.

[Raffaele]

Tomas wrote:
I was more talking about the raw cpu capabilities. Yes, i know the amigaos is much more responsive, but this wont help much when it comes to pure cpu power. If the recommended requirements are anywhere near right, then both the g3 and g4 will be quite behind. And i also have some doubts about the capabilities of the chipset.

Sure G3 it is no good at all because iot has no Altivec.

But altivec sure works as SSE instructions

[CLS2086]

Sure G3 it is no good at all because iot has no Altivec.

A good DSP on the card (like High range Matrox or Pinnacle one's) can be the perfect solution to do all the tricks  ;-)

[tonyvdb]

"At least we need a good port of OpenGL, because then we will able to run same 2D/3d transitions of video wipes."

Not true either the Video Toaster 4000 uses the AGA capabilities of the A4000 and was able to do 3D transitions just fine. I have even built my own 3D wipes on my Toaster Flyer.

[Raffaele]

tonyvdb wrote:
"At least we need a good port of OpenGL, because then we will able to run same 2D/3d transitions of video wipes."

Not true either the Video Toaster 4000 uses the AGA capabilities of the A4000 and was able to do 3D transitions just fine. I have even built my own 3D wipes on my Toaster Flyer.

It is strange you wrote things like these.

Videotoaster 4000 it is not in any way hardware compatible with new AmigaPPC based on PCI BUS.

So even emulating Toaster4000 software on PPC Amigas it will not run or even crash.

Remapping Toaster 4000 software to run on new Videotoaster v.4 it could take more time than re-writing all the drivers and transition effects programs from scatch.

And then it will still be Motorola 68K compatible.

No, I think it is not way the effort.

We need new drivers and new software born from their first day to run on PPC Amigas, and the quickest method to implement video transitions effects programs is to use OpenGL, and activate compatibility with Altivec, so the software could use the Altivec circuit in PPC G4 which allows same capabilities of SSE2 instructiosn used in X86 world.

[tonyvdb]

Videotoaster 4000 it is not in any way hardware compatible with new AmigaPPC based on PCI BUS.
So even emulating Toaster4000 software on PPC Amigas it will not run or even crash.

True but as I said in a post earlyer there is no way Newtek would do this as there are not enough A1 users out there to suport such a move.

Remapping Toaster 4000 software to run on new Videotoaster v.4 it could take more time than re-writing all the drivers and transition effects programs from scatch.

Newtek would have to totaly redesign the hardware in order for it to work on an amiga (the card would be larger then the 4000 is) and it would most likely only work on the A4000 as the A1200 dosent have the space for a card of that size.

[boing]

Now that custom chips are once again the "up and coming thing"  it would sure be nice if we could convince NewTek to try and get rights to the AmigaOS. They might even build something like a real Amiga, unlike the PPC boxen we have now.

I really doubt the absurd claims that the G3 and G4 aren't up to the task.  Remember: the wintel VT boards were first offered for 500MHz x86 chips.

Anyway, NewTek's great support is exactly why i know people who stayed with the Video Toaster even after they added Wintel clones and Macs to their stable of video gear.  They kept their Amiga VT stuff, because when you need something to work glitch-free, it's there. You can count on the Amiga VT. But they got the wintel VT stuff for the new bells and whistles and for NewTek's professional support.

  That support is exactly why they bought 2 more wintel VT units.  Support costs money, but it brings returns in customer loyalty and repeat business.

[tonyvdb]

"NewTek's great support is exactly why i know people who stayed with the Video Toaster even after they added Wintel clones and Macs to their stable of video gear. They kept their Amiga VT stuff, because when you need something to work glitch-free, it's there. You can count on the Amiga VT."
Exactly!
 I dont know how many of you have had the opertunity to use the Video Toaster Flyer as I do but I can vouch that there is no editing system availavble for any platform that can perform as well as the Video Toaster. It truly amazes me how much you can do with the Amiga 4000 and the VT Flyer. I have no reason to "upgrade" to a PC baced system because it runs so well. The only thing I wish Newtek would have incorperated better is a nicer interface for a "true" timeline editing screen. There are some 3rd party programs that integrat into the Flyer but they dont work that well or look that nice as the VT4.

[TheMagicM]

They are right here in San Antonio and I have not once stopped by to take a look at the place.. I should do that..for nostalgia's sake..take pics etc..