OS 4 developers aren't able to see change

[Argo]

Um, What is this final release suppost to run on? :-?

[humppa]

Um, What is this final release suppost to run on?

Good question, do you refer to the terms of the contract or what is realistically to be anticipated?

Concerning the communication between between the contract partners see the IRC-chat:

[2005-12-28 20:56:50] VidarL "Are Hyperion in regular contact with Amiga.Inc?"
[2005-12-28 20:57:01] Rogue "*coughs* "
[2005-12-28 20:57:04] Rogue "Alright, about Mesa..."

[JoannaK]

CC: You have to understand that the original *deal* (at least the version floated on net) was supposidely made Before Hyperion even started the OS4 porting project (late 2001).. IF you'll look old posts (or happen to remember) it was Hermans&Team who bragged publicly that they can Cram OS4 port to working/sellable condition in mere 3 months..

If it had only taken 3 months, the payment might have been more-or-less reasonable, but unfortunately (or on pupose? who's to tell) it's taken them four years and it's still not 'ready' ...

[JoannaK]

[humppa]

If it had only taken 3 months, the payment might have been more-or-less reasonable, but unfortunately (or on pupose? who's to tell) it's taken them four years and it's still not 'ready' ...

Exactly. Ok, let's make a contest: Who digs out the earliest estimated release date of AmigaOS 4 will get a free non-existing Amy'05 prototype.

Let me start with a conservative release date: It says "commercial release in early 2005" on the website of Amiga Inc.
:lol:

[CHR_ZD]

please. they don't even have a mailing list. they should let people know what is happening so that they create interest... os4 site is totally dead and in an e-commerce point of view it's stuck at the first stage (there are 3 stages in e-commerce theory), if you know what I mean.

[JoannaK]

Humppa: IMHO.. one should not mix those totally empty promices made by AmigaInc to Hyperion's.. Hyperion at least has started the project for real when they said they are going to and got it in reasonably well shape during these years...

Of course it's to each and every individual to determine if current version of OS4 is ready enough.. Some individuas say it is ready and fits their needs, but in wider spec, it's stil lacking in many key areas valued today before it could be markettable for bigger crowds. (and years late)

[humppa]

Of course it's to each and every individual to determine if current version of OS4 is ready enough..

Hyperion's statements to the question wether OS4 is "ready" or not were quite contradicting recently, to say the least.

Around X-mas, when everybody was speculating for a final release and much hope was raised, they explained that OS4 final is basically ready, but won't be released due to missing hardware. At that time, also the Classic version was said to be principally "near final" and there was not much difference between the A1 and Classic version.

Nearly 4 months later, hardware is still missing. Looking at the bad sentiment at the moment and the fact that more and more users are giving up, Hyperion could finally release the Classic version to pump some fresh air into the boing ball.
But now they say that there are so many drivers missing, there is no point, they can't afford the support, etc.

Also the argument that they need to release both version (Classic and for new hw) at the same time is very weak imho: Would anybody (Slashdot, Register) notice when the Classic version get's released? I don't think so. They could still have their news when new hardware is released someday (maybe in 2007).
They just twist their arguments how they best fit with their policy. I get the feeling that they are in fact hoping for Amiga Inc. to go bancrupt soon and therefore are not interested in releasing OS4 to soon. They will only get $25.000 within 6 months after they release. That's nothing compared to the efforts and man-hours they put into it. Surely, they could earn some money from OS4 sales, but that's nothing compared to the possibility to get the rights for AmigaOS sourcecode, trademarks, simply everything.

It's a bit like gambling for "all or nothing".