Why isnt OS4 available on other PPC hardware?

[Martin_Lee]

Its hard to get the overpriced out dated Amiga hardware, so why cant we just have it run on other PPC hardware?

Id buy a copy for my Mac

[_yak_]

Take a look at forums on amigaworld.net to learn more about current OS4 hardware situation.

[Waccoon]

Politics.

[humppa]

Take a look at forums on amigaworld.net to learn more about current OS4 hardware situation.

...and make sure to take some antidepressants before reading. You could develop a desire for committing suicide.  :-P

[Argo]

But Macs are not PPC!  :lol:  

There are lots of reasons. Lack of documentation of the Mac PPC hardware, licencing issues, politics, fear of piracy, ...

Try a search of the forums here and at AW.net.

[Lando]

Martin_Lee wrote:
Its hard to get the overpriced out dated Amiga hardware, so why cant we just have it run on other PPC hardware?

Id buy a copy for my Mac

This question has been asked a million times.

Amiga Inc want to make money from hardware without actually making or selling any.

So, they restrict the machines on which they will allow OS4 to run to those companies who agree to pay a license fee for each piece of hardware sold.

Apple will not pay a licence fee, hence you will never see OS4 running on your Mac.  Genesi won't pay either a license fee either, so you won't see OS4 running on a PegasosII, Efika, or anything else.

Amiga Inc have doing their level best to kill AmigaOS and anything to do with the Amiga computer since they bought the name, and to all intents and purposes they have succeeded.  The user base is now probably 10% of what it was when they took over 6 years ago.

You can either email Apple and ask them to pay some money to Amiga Inc and start bundling Macs with AmigaOS, or you can email Amiga and ask them to lift the licensing restrictions.  It is likely that neither will even bother to reply.

[Savan]

ts hard to get the overpriced out dated Amiga hardware, so why cant we just have it run on other PPC hardware?

The remaining Amiga companies are stupid, they would rather sell damn expensive hardware with a OS to a small fan base than port the OS to hardware what millions of people use.

Anything is better than a OS with no hardware.

[Lando]

Savan wrote:

ts hard to get the overpriced out dated Amiga hardware, so why cant we just have it run on other PPC hardware?

The remaining Amiga companies are stupid, they would rather sell damn expensive hardware with a OS to a small fan base than port the OS to hardware what millions of people use.

Anything is better than a OS with no hardware.

And no software...

Even if AmigaOS could run on Macs, who would bother with it when they have OS X with hundreds of times more features and thousands of times more software applications.

People may install AmigaOS and boot into it on occasion out of curiosity, then boot back into OS X to get some real work done or play a game that isn't from the last century, but switching between the two just serves to highlight AmigaOS' deficiencies.

A computer is a tool, you use the tool which is right for the job.  The problem is, AmigaOS simply has nothing to offer any more.  In the past people didn't run Amigas just because of the OS.  They used Amigas because of the software - they had Video toasters, they ran Lightwave or Imagine, Vista Pro, DPaint, they played games etc.  All the software that was better than the equivalent on other machines at the time.  None of this applies any more.

Maybe some will be happy to sit and customise their Workbench screen all day and wonder at the marvels of watching two MPEGs and playing an MP3 at the same time, but to normal users, who actually need their machine to do something useful, OS4 is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

[InTheSand]

Lando wrote:
...OS4 is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

At least you could eat the chocolate fireguard! Perhaps OS4 and Amiga Inc should be submitted here? :-)

 - Ali

[asian1]

There was an announcement in 2005 that AmigaOS 4 had been ported to PowerPC 405. There is no detail / information about the hardware, only the type of the CPU.

I do not know if this statement is true or just a hoax/scam/vaporware.

[Wayne]

jejejejee

humpaa answer was real funny but right
some posts here are depresives
I think it's time to change and depresive ppl must be banned
and my opinion about that OS4 is that is pure crap
I don't care if ppc or mac or intel
if anyone here believe that os 4 will be useful or good maybe also believes in santa claus
I agree with Lando when says that the miggy OS is obsolete nowdays
I enjoy my A1200 and winuae and I play classic games
Im expert amiga user since long time ago and for good news only wait for new WinUAE releases

and...I think that WinUAE is more powerful than any amiga and is the best emulator on any platform
and
I think that the future of the miggy will be WInUAE


bye Laser

[motorollin]

Laser wrote:
I think it's time to change and depresive ppl must be banned

Yeah, just ban all the realistic people so the rest of us can kid ourselves :roll:

Laser wrote:
and my opinion about that OS4 is that is pure crap

Can you explain why you think that?

Laser wrote:
I agree with Lando when says that the miggy OS is obsolete nowdays

Why are you using it then?

Laser wrote:
and...I think that WinUAE is more powerful than any amiga and is the best emulator on any platform

I think that the future of the miggy will be WInUAE
bye Laser

Yeah bye....

--
moto

[Legerdemain]

Even if AmigaOS could run on Macs, who would bother with it when they have OS X with hundreds of times more features and thousands of times more software applications.

A rather odd comment, don't you think. Why does anyeone bother buying extremely epensive hardware to run AOS4 at all? Because it is what they want to do! Or maybe you meant people outside the Amiga community? Well, at least they would be able to TRY OUT the OS, unlike now, when no hardware is available.

If it was adapted (a port wouldn't exactly be needed) to other PPC-platforms or even a regular port to x86, of course people would go for those alternatives instead because it would be CHEAPER.

I am pretty confident that if something doesn't happen soon the little that's left of the Amiga will vanish into thin air. Not making the OS available for other hardware than the A1 (not counting the PowerVixxen or the Amy here, because in all fairness they haven't been released yet and the updates concerning their upcoming releases are everything but frequent).

[Martin_Lee]

I agree that amiga inc arent doing us any favours at all.

theyre making a joke out of the amiga name with their stupid little games for amigaanywhere

Id say if youre not already supporting AROS then you should be! (this isnt meant to be trollish)

[dammy]

Face it, the commercial viability of OS4 is zero.  Let us set aside for the moment of Eyetech contract for Amigas with Amiga Inc.  A1 sales prove there is no viable market left.  Peg sales reaffirm the market is not viable.

Cut back to Eyetech, they have a contract for AmigaOnes.  If Amiga under cuts Eyetech with a new contract, I wouldn't doubt Eyetech would take it to court asking for compensation.  I do question if Eyetech has ever turned over a royality check yet to either Amiga Inc or Hyperion from earlybird sales.  Regardless if Eyetech saw a profit out of those sales considering some retailers reportedly stiffed Eyetech.

Stick a f0rk in OS4, it's done.  Instead of whining about OS4 not being ported (it won't), you would be better off looking at alternatives or working on improving your native machine and it's OS.   :roll:

Dammy