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Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« on: April 21, 2003, 04:21:20 PM »
Since the other thread has deteriorated to the typical mud slinging I started a new one which WILL stay on topic. If you want to fling mud, go to the other one.

So the interest includes:
1)Loads of pics.
2)Unbiased as possible.
3)Don't hide either pros or cons.
4)First impressions.

Anything else? Looks like there will be multiple reviews, maybe seperate or possibly combined. Any feedback please post here.
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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2003, 04:26:52 PM »
Sounds good to me.

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2003, 04:34:24 PM »
Yes a good honest review would be nice and also let us know if the t-shirt fits  ;-)
 

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2003, 04:37:49 PM »
@red:

re: off-topic -- Sorry, my fault.  Feel free to moderate even me as required.

re: the real topic.  I am waiting on a check from my employer so that I can buy the memory, video card, etcetera needed to build my machine.  Once that's done, I'll start evaluating.  I got a chance to tinker with Targhan's Pegasos machine Saturday during a visit and I can honestly say that I cannot wait.  I am also buying a new digicam so it should come in especially handy.

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2003, 05:00:45 PM »
@red
Things you might want to add:

How hard/easy was it to get your data&apps from your AOS-setup to the Peg.

What works, what not, what requires 3rd-party SW to be installed,
what needed manual adjustement/install.

How fast/slow is it compared to your UAE-setup (you are running
UAE or am I mistaken ?) But don't go back to typical benches with
no real use. Better use stuff like browsing or some GFX-work to
determin the difference.

Also try to compare how the stability is compared to an
"normal" OS3.x-setup. but don't do that before you got your
setup straight.

1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2003, 05:30:05 PM »
Is there a list of working progs available anywhere?

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2003, 05:43:56 PM »
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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2003, 05:52:04 PM »
There is a list at http://www.telusplanet.net/public/samel/pegasos/compatibility.txt

Eventhough there are currently 28 items in my compined bug- & feature-request list, I'd say MOS is ready for normal daily already. I have had no unexpected lock-ups for example.

Two utilities I tend to use all the time are causing a little problems. Magellan, giving wrong partitionsizes, has minor graphical bugs and sometimes freezes the computer when transferring a big file over the network.
The other one being AmigaAmp.

The lack of audio.device is a big minus. I would like to use HippoPlayer for example, but at the moment this is no possibility. Was told today that such thing will come eventually.

Now, my Pegasos's uptime is 9 hours.. been doing some normal daily routines all day, like: Irc, surfing the net, listening to mods with UADE, listening to MP3's with AmiNetRadio, typing text with CED PPC and using a mail client.. have even tested some WarpOS software which I'd suppose should less compatible.
 

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2003, 05:53:53 PM »
@Wayne,

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On to the reason for this topic...

I look forward to anyone's reviews of Pegasos or AOne on this website.  Now that there actually is new hardware, I am interested to see how it fares against the current crop of PC hardware (yes, P4 included).  

I am also interested to hear reviews of MorphOS and (eventually...hopefully) OS4.  

So start those reviews people!  :-)

Regards,
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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2003, 05:56:53 PM »
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re: off-topic -- Sorry, my fault. Feel free to moderate even me as required.


Naw, I'm pointing no fingers. I was in there too:-) Same goes for me, moderate me where needed:-)

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re: the real topic. I am waiting on a check from my employer so that I can buy the memory, video card, etcetera needed to build my machine. Once that's done, I'll start evaluating. I got a chance to tinker with Targhan's Pegasos machine Saturday during a visit and I can honestly say that I cannot wait. I am also buying a new digicam so it should come in especially handy.


I have a new camera to use so the pics from my end should be plentiful. While my Pegasos is arriving this week, i probably won't be assembling it until this weekend. I am lacking some basic parts like spare case, registered memory, vid card etc and there is a 'computer show' this weekend. We'll see if I can be patient though, I am VERY eager to fire it up, I may end up buying at a local dealer out of lack of patience. I am like this with any new computer toy, it's like I have ants in my pants;-)
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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2003, 05:57:53 PM »
Two questions

Can the pegasos machine be turned off straight away? (obviously without any disk activity)

Does it run 68K software great? (ie you do not notice any degrading from using PPC software then to 68K)
 

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2003, 06:00:40 PM »
@Paul

As to your first question, I saw Targhan's machine Saturday, and yes, it can be turned off by switch (no "shutdown" required).

As to the second part, I have ImageFX and a few other programs here that I'm going to test when I get this machine together.  Will let you know.
 

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2003, 06:04:47 PM »
Thanks, i will rephrase the first question as it looks like comedy.
 

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Re: Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2003, 06:07:36 PM »
@Paul_Gadd

Atm there are only 2 ways to turn a Peg down.
a) Pull the plug  ;-)
b) Hold the PWR-button for a few sec till the PSU shuts off.

I'm sure you would notice quite a difference if you ran the 68k
version of a renderer and than compare it to an PPC one, but as
long as you use "normal" 68k-SW you won't notice any slowdown
even with the static-emu (JIT is still only for Betatester_1).

Stuff like GoldED (with highest coloring-setup in C++-mode) or
IBrowse work just as fast as on 1-2ghz WinUAE-setup.

The reason for this lies probraly partly in the missing under-
lying OS (like Windows), completly refusing to do any chipset
emu and the fact that these kind of SW runs mainly in the OS
(for calling GFX-routines/doing GUI-stuff) which is allready in PPC.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else