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Options for my old 1200
« on: March 09, 2006, 08:17:27 PM »
Hi,

I've just recently gotten my hands on my A1200 again ( i was on the otherside of the world from it for about 6 years ) what i have is an A1200 in a Plastic case with various bits added to it, still no sure what they all are it's been so long, it's a UK version ( PAL ) i'm now in the states, so for now i don't have an easy way to view the output from the Amiga i'm going to setup my old 3dfx 3500tv card in a puter and get it going that way for now but what i'm really posting here for is this:

is there a definitive easy way for me to get the mig running thru a monitor ( i have literally dozens of the things ) if so what do i need to make this happen.

I've had alook around and it seems i need a scan doubler but the last discussion i read on this board was over 2 yrs ago, has there been any progress or are there better options?

Any help would be appreciated as i love my A500 ( still in the UK ) and espcially my 1200, i miss the workbench of my youth.

As a side note, how many amigans now run Slack?
 

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 08:22:22 PM »
Hum,
apart from getting a Pal monitor,
do you have a cheap TV card for your PC?
Just put the RF output through that....

Or just use WinUAE....

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 08:35:27 PM »
Hi

You can get the 1200 to boot into NTSC by holding down both mouse buttons as you boot, to take you to the early start up screen. Then from there you can toggle PAL or NTSC out put. Form memory you just have to press any key. Then just hook the cmpsite out to a TV, its not the best but itll work.

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2006, 08:35:58 PM »
Sorry double post. Not sure how that happened.

Sorry

Robert
A1200 (Dead :-(  OS 3.1/3.1, 030@33, 882@33, 2/8MB RAM, 1.4GB HDD
A500 OS 3.1/3.1, 020@14, 882@14, 0.5/6.5MB RAM, A590 2GB SCSI HDD, CD ROM, Mas Player
A600 OS 2.1/2.05, 000@7, 1/0MB RAM

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2006, 08:38:07 PM »
my 3dfx 3500tv card is a pal tvcard, so it'll do what i need the only problem i have right now is finding the darn Blue cable with the inputs for it, it's been so long i just don't know where i put it! grrr!  :lol:

any options for getting things running using a gfx card or some such would be appreciated, it's been so long i don't evan know what my options are and i was thinking about the timeline it's been over 8 years since i last played with my trusty A500 or A1200, man thats a long time with no amiga!
 

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2006, 08:41:48 PM »
Welcome back!

You could also use a Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer or a simple Amiga to SVGA converter and change the Amiga screenmode to 31Khz.  The former option is better for games though.
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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2006, 08:47:44 PM »
Hi

AFAIK these only really 2 ways to go on the 1200. Get a BlizzardPPC card and BVisionPPC. Or get a PCI backplane and a PCI gfx card. Neither is very cheap and the second method means you need to tower your 1200. Also native screen modes are a bit of a pain then.

Robert
A1200 (Dead :-(  OS 3.1/3.1, 030@33, 882@33, 2/8MB RAM, 1.4GB HDD
A500 OS 3.1/3.1, 020@14, 882@14, 0.5/6.5MB RAM, A590 2GB SCSI HDD, CD ROM, Mas Player
A600 OS 2.1/2.05, 000@7, 1/0MB RAM

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2006, 08:48:52 PM »
hows this for bad, my A1200 has a Blizzard 1230IV Phase 5 Card in it, i don't evan remember buying such a card! :lol:

The case i believe is a Infinitiv or some such, one of the first cases to be made for the A1200 it's all bits of plastic that barely fit together well, i'm looking inside the puter right now looks like i broke a few wires during the shipping so i'll be soldering them pretty soon.

Thanks for the replies so far guys all helpful stuff

Edit1:
Just found my Tower make it's a Micronik Infinitiv 1200, i remember buying that at the novatel show back in the mid 90's, but i'm still blown away by the Blizzard card though! can't for the life of me remember buying that!
 

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2006, 10:31:04 PM »
well, you know, s... happens sometimes  :-)
but really, the bliz030 is a great piece of hardware :-)
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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2006, 01:24:26 AM »
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toca180 wrote:

You can get the 1200 to boot into NTSC by holding down both mouse buttons as you boot, to take you to the early start up screen. Then from there you can toggle PAL or NTSC out put. Form memory you just have to press any key. Then just hook the cmpsite out to a TV, its not the best but itll work.


That's fine if he's going to be happy with a black-and-white output!
My advice to you is to just get a scandoubler, it is well worth it, and you'll be able to use it with your A500 as well.
 

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2006, 02:45:40 AM »
So the question is an internal or external scandoubler? what are the advantages and dis-advantages of each?
 

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2006, 06:44:57 AM »
Hang about, doesn't the Infinitiv Tower have the option of a Zorro busboard for the attachment of a Picasso?

I saw one on eBay with a Blizzard 1230-IV and Picasso-II. Looked pretty neat and the hardware was nicely balanced.

If you used an '060 then a Picasso-IV might be a good sibling!

If you have a tower you will want an internal scandoubler/FF because the external ones will poke out of the 23-pin video port about 4". If no support is given it could well do damage to the pins... and internal avoids RGB-composite-RGB conversion.

A lot of people are chattering now about 15KHz compatible LCD TVs since they'll take an Amiga video mode and due to their technology will not need flicker fixing.

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2006, 07:43:40 AM »
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That's fine if he's going to be happy with a black-and-white output!


Since when does the A1200 composite output B/W? Mine (CBM and AT versions) all output colour. Or is that because I have PAL and is the B/W thing an NTSC issue?

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2006, 05:46:08 PM »
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alenppc wrote:
That's fine if he's going to be happy with a black-and-white output!


Since when does the A1200 composite output B/W? Mine (CBM and AT versions) all output colour. Or is that because I have PAL and is the B/W thing an NTSC issue?



The colorburst signal on the chrominance line is different for PAL and NTSC.
 

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Re: Options for my old 1200
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2006, 05:48:39 PM »
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is there a definitive easy way for me to get the mig running thru a monitor ( i have literally dozens of the things ) if so what do i need to make this happen.

A flicker fixer does just that. You can get one from this store: http://www.amigakit.com/