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Ultimate A500?
« on: March 08, 2006, 04:53:39 PM »
Well, I'm almost finished building my ultimate A4000, will post specs later after everything is installed and running, and now I would like to build my ultimate A500.  What advice can you give on setting up an A500 that is still very compatible with old Amiga games but is very expanded.  

If any of you have built your ulitimate A500 please post those specs too so I can have a benchmark to go by.

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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2006, 05:29:22 PM »
A hardware kickstart switcher is almost a must for an A500 set up to play games.  Get one and install it with 1.3 and 2.04/3.1 ROMs.  You will then be able to play almost any OCS/ECS Amiga game with ease (and it's quicker, easier and less memory hogging than a software ROM switcher).  Not that software switchers are bad, they are just a little bit of a pain sometimes if you are changing ROM versions a lot.
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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2006, 06:00:21 PM »
I believe I have the ultimate A500 - not just in hardware, but in software config (hence the name "mr_a500" ;-)).

If you can find an elusive Viper 530 - something I have been searching for for years - then you might have the ultimate. (and I might kill you to steal it :-D - the Viper 530 has 50Mhz 030 and 128Mb RAM!!)

My A500 has:
Viper 520 - 33Mhz 68020, 68882 FPU, 8Mb Fast RAM, 3.0ROMs
Mini Megi - 2Mb Chip RAM
40Gb 5400RPM 2.5" IDE HD
ECS Denise - with Mini Megi gives full ECS chipset
DCTV - for 24bit composite (displaying images, not WB)
Microspeed Trackball - verrry comfortable and no need for mouse space
WB 3.1 - believe me, on an A500 WB 3.9 is NOT the ultimate


I don't consider scandoublers or CD-ROM an improvement so I don't have any. All of my upgrades are internal, so there's no junk hanging off. (except DCTV, but it's just a small black box)

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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2006, 06:42:34 PM »
Wow, mr_a500 that is one sweet setup!  How do you do with old Amiga games or is that something you mess with?

Was/Is the Viper an internal trapdoor expansion?  How did you get all that inside the A500?  I mean, wow!  Very impressive.

The A500 was the very first Amiga I had.  I had always wanted an A1000 and I recently acquired a very nice one off Ebay.  I also got my A4000 setup pretty much complete  but now I want to go back to my A500 roots.

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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2006, 07:43:34 PM »
i'd like to see an A500 with a PP&S 040 card and one of the powerup PPC dev boards  :-D

i guess a hard disk and KS3.1 would be a requirement too  ;-)

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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2006, 08:04:38 PM »
The Viper plugs into the A500's 68000 CPU slot. There are 2 IDE connectors - one for 2.5" (which my HD is attached to, sitting on top of the card) and one for 3.5". I never could use the 3.5" connector because there's no convenient way to power a 3.5" drive. I was thinking of getting a compact flash to IDE adapter and using compact flash instead of 2.5" HD. Modern harddrives are total crap and usually fail within 2 years!

About the old games - about 99% OCS/ECS games work fine on my Amiga, thanks to WHDload. The remaining 1% either haven't gotten a WHDload install yet or have minor graphics problems in WHDload or have unexpected exits. It's still a hell of a lot better than using a stock A500, waiting for slow floppy load and swapping disks!

My A500 is my first Amiga too - bought in 1989. I recently got a free A1000. The A1000 is nice, but much harder to upgrade. The great thing about the A1000 is the built-in composite output. I played Beast on my big TV and it looked great.

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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2006, 08:05:10 PM »
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i'd like to see an A500 with a PP&S 040 card and one of the powerup PPC dev boards  :-D

i guess a hard disk and KS3.1 would be a requirement too  ;-)


Yeah, PPS 040 board would be fun to see in action
I wonder how many that were sold  :roll:
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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2006, 08:18:15 PM »
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Yeah, PPS 040 board would be fun to see in action


You mean "smell in action". From what I've heard, the 040 gets very hot and the A500 case is pretty tight. "mmmmm.....burning plastic" ;-)

Does anybody out there have an 040 in the original A1200 case? Is a fan needed? (I'm not a fan of fans)

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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2006, 09:03:35 PM »
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Yeah, PPS 040 board would be fun to see in action


You mean "smell in action". From what I've heard, the 040 gets very hot and the A500 case is pretty tight. "mmmmm.....burning plastic" ;-)

Does anybody out there have an 040 in the original A1200 case? Is a fan needed? (I'm not a fan of fans)


hehe, yeah..I guess the A500 case would get warped by the heat which almost happened to my A600 which I had an Mtec 630 in before I added a cooling fan to the case to draw out the hot air and a heatsink on the '030
The PPS '040 had a cooling fan as standard but the airflow inside the A500 is quite terrible
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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2006, 09:11:15 PM »
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darksun9210 wrote:
i'd like to see an A500 with a PP&S 040 card and one of the powerup PPC dev boards  :-D
i guess a hard disk and KS3.1 would be a requirement too  ;-)


A good start but a towerized A500 goes still further, as my A500T in Micronik Classic Mini Tower:
A500 upgraded to ECS, Megachip2 giving 2 MB Chip, KS 2.05 +3.1 in switcher, Micronik busboard with 3 ZorroII slots and A2000 compatible CPU slot housing Blizzard 2060 clocked to 57 MHz, with 96 MB Fast atm. 4GB SCSI2 HD, 8x SCSI CD-Rom, Denise adapter to acquire PicassoIV flickerfixer - loaned to my A4000; CV3D and PicassoII+ cards, Eyetech flickerfixer + AutoMon switcher to CV3D, HD-floppy as DF0: And 2-4 MB extra RAM available on Oktagon 2008 depending on which RTG gard(s) sit in the tower. Mostly gathering dust nowadays...
I was so disappointed they shelved the Blizzard 2604 PPC board :-?
 

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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2006, 09:31:51 PM »
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zipper wrote:
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darksun9210 wrote:
i'd like to see an A500 with a PP&S 040 card and one of the powerup PPC dev boards  :-D
i guess a hard disk and KS3.1 would be a requirement too  ;-)


A good start but a towerized A500 goes still further, as my A500T in Micronik Classic Mini Tower:
A500 upgraded to ECS, Megachip2 giving 2 MB Chip, KS 2.05 +3.1 in switcher, Micronik busboard with 3 ZorroII slots and A2000 compatible CPU slot housing Blizzard 2060 clocked to 57 MHz, with 96 MB Fast atm. 4GB SCSI2 HD, 8x SCSI CD-Rom, Denise adapter to acquire PicassoIV flickerfixer - loaned to my A4000; CV3D and PicassoII+ cards, Eyetech flickerfixer + AutoMon switcher to CV3D, HD-floppy as DF0: And 2-4 MB extra RAM available on Oktagon 2008 depending on which RTG gard(s) sit in the tower. Mostly gathering dust nowadays...
I was so disappointed they shelved the Blizzard 2604 PPC board :-?


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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2006, 09:36:41 PM »
Hi

Look at mysig for my A500 spec, its not that ultimate but is not stock either. Would Like to get the mega chip so it has more chip ram and something to improve the video out put (scan doubler or graphics card if they even exist for the 500).  Also i can play MP3 on it (with MAS player).

@A500

Thats a nice 500!

Robert
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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2006, 09:39:37 PM »
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A good start but a towerized A500 goes still further, as my A500T in Micronik Classic Mini Tower:


Bah! That's not an A500 anymore, it's an A2000 in a PC case. "Real A500s don't have towers."TM

That's like taking the engine out of a VW Beetle and putting it into an Oldsmobile - and still calling it a Beetle. ;-)

I'd love to have an 060 and 96Mb RAM in my A500, though!

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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2006, 09:47:03 PM »
@mr_a500

I second that. Its scareligious! 500s are ment to be in a desktop case.

Robert
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Re: Ultimate A500?
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2006, 09:56:32 PM »