Fusion Forty Plug'N Go ROMs V3.4!

[TjLaZer]

Thanks to Amiga.org member alanppc I will soon have Fusion Forty Plug'N Go ROMs V3.4!  If anyone wants a set burned or the image files for download you will soon be able to!  Stay tuned...

[jkonstan]

Good work in tracking those ROMs down.
I have been trying to get a copy of these for my Fusion Forty for my A2000 for a while now. Please email/contact me when you have the files of the ROM images. Thanks for the help.

 :-)

[TjLaZer]

I have the ROMs!  I also have images if anyone wants them.  I will put them on my site actually.  I am going to test and make sure they work.  If anyone wants a set of 4 chips burned to ROM let me know!  Stay tuned!

[jkonstan]

Please post the link to your web site with the ROM images for the Fusion Forty Plug'N Go ROMs V3.4. Thanks for the help.

 :-)

[amigagr]

any info for what is all about?

[AltRN8]

Awesome news. I would love to get a hold of these. Has always been annoying to have to hold down mouse buttons to boot my A2000.

Give us a link!

Great job.

[TjLaZer]

I just threw up a page with the roms on it!

- Edit - due to whining of some people I removed the site, simply pmail me and I gladly give it to you, as I would like to help my fellow Amigans keep their Amigas up and running unlike some people!

 :headwall:   :cheers:

[jkonstan]

This is great.
The very hard to get Fusion Forty Plug'N Go ROMs V3.4.
Thank you !!

 :-)  :-)  :-)  

[Piru]

@TjLaZer

I'm not trying to ruin anyone's party, but do you have a permission to redistribute these roms?

Fusion-Forty SetFF-ROM v3.4 Sun Dec 11 21:04:14 1994
Handles EC/LC & real '040
Copyright © 1991-1994 by ML HardSoft, Mattias Lundblad
Copyright © 1991-1994 by RCS Management Inc.

Fusion-Forty bonus - Copyright © 1993-1994 by ML HardSoft

Fusion-Forty FASTKICK'er - Copyright © 1993-1994 by ML HardSoft

SetFF v1.79 Copyright © 1992-1994 by Mattias Lundblad and Mikael Djurfeldt

FASTKICK'er - Copyright © 1992-1994 by ML HardSoft

ROMLoad2Bin v1.2 Copyright © 1990-1992 by ML HardSoft, Mattias Lundblad

Fusion-Forty Plug & Go ROM version 3.4 (11-Dec-94)
Supports the real, LC & EC '040
Copyright © 1991-1994 by ML HardSoft, Mattias Lundblad
Copyright © 1991-1994 by RCS Management Inc.

FPU installer - Copyright © 1992-1993 by ML HardSoft

2091ROMMover - Copyright © 1992 by ML HardSoft

Don't get me wrong, I would be more than happy to see the roms available for anyone needing them, but the copyright laws must be obeyed aswell.

[TjLaZer]

Jesus.  Since you are so concerned will you contact RCS Management and ask if it is ok to offer their latest update to legitimate Fusion Forty cards?  This update is required to make their card work with Kickstart 3.x.  I am not selling the ROM just offering it to Fusion Forty owners.  

I am pretty sure RCS Management is not around anymore, and it would be almost impossible to contact them.   Mattias Lundblad does seem to have a site and he offers to give you the ROMs when you contact him, but a few of us have and never got a reply.  I will email him again asking if I can offer it online.

Regarding the Copyright.  Lets see.  To not violate potential copyright laws we should throw away our Fusion Forty cards instead of upgrading them from image files on the internet if we wish to use the latest Amiga Operating system. Nice!  Would that make everyone happy?

The site http://amiga.resource.cx hosts all the RCS disks too, should we shut that site down too?   :headwall:

[TjLaZer]

I emailed Mattias Lundblad asking for permission to offer the ROMs to anyone that needs them.  Since he offers them on his site (if you email him) I do not think it will be a problem!

[alenppc]

TjLaZer wrote:
- Edit - due to whining of some people I removed the site, simply pmail me and I gladly give it to you, as I would like to help my fellow Amigans keep their Amigas up and running unlike some people!

I am appalled that anyone would complain about this... :-o

I mean, they are absolutely necessary to get the card working properly plus they haven't been produced for about 12 years now!! The company doesn't even exist anymore...

[magnetic]

You guys just dont get it. Copyright is Copyright. If you dont have permission its illegal. Can it be any more simple for you to comprehend?

 :-?

magnetic

[Piru]

@TjLaZer

Since you are so concerned will you contact RCS Management and ask if it is ok to offer their latest update to legitimate Fusion Forty cards?

I'm not the one offering the ROMs for download.

This update is required to make their card work with Kickstart 3.x. I am not selling the ROM just offering it to Fusion Forty owners.

All good, if you have the permission (a kind of a license).

I am pretty sure RCS Management is not around anymore, and it would be almost impossible to contact them.

This really is no excuse. If you can't get the permission you can't redistribute the copyrighted material.

Mattias Lundblad does seem to have a site and he offers to give you the ROMs when you contact him, but a few of us have and never got a reply. I will email him again asking if I can offer it online.

I doubt it will be a problem and I think you probably will get the permission. Until you do, I'd suggest you don't spread the files.

Regarding the Copyright. Lets see. To not violate potential copyright laws we should throw away our Fusion Forty cards instead of upgrading them from image files on the internet if we wish to use the latest Amiga Operating system. Nice! Would that make everyone happy?

Probably not.

The site http://amiga.resource.cx hosts all the RCS disks too, should we shut that site down too?

I hope they do have the permission to host the files they host.

www.amiga-hardware.com got into trouble just because single copyright holder asked the site to be taken down due to unauthorized downloads. That didn't many everyone happy either.

Just because single site has permission to have something available for download doesn't mean everyone else has the same right aswell. For example back2roots has (or had, the site is down for months already) explicit permission to have certain titles for download.

- Edit - due to whining of some people I removed the site, simply pmail me and I gladly give it to you, as I would like to help my fellow Amigans keep their Amigas up and running unlike some people!

I have no hidden agenda, nor I can stop you from hosting anything. I just asked you if you had the permission to host the files, since it might get you into trouble if you didn't.

I find it quite surprising you don't seem to be able to have adult discussion about this.

[Motormouth]

@TjLaZer

I would love to get Fusion Forty Plug'N Go ROMs V3.4.  Could I get a set of 4 chips burned?  I would be willing to help pay for the burn run and EPROM chips.   I would Pmail you, but I don't know what Pmail is?  perhaps Phonemail, or Pegasus mail (look at www.pmail.com)?

@Everyone

As for the copyright issues, I would be happy to pay RCS or whoever else owns these ROMs, at reasonable price (10 or 20 dollars US) after all this is 15 year old hardware.  I have been looking for these ROMs to no avail since about 2001 when I bought an A2000 with a Fusion Forty in it from an e-bay auction.

For those worried about the copyrights check out an article:
Pete Loshin, "Abandonware:  Welcome to the Netherworld of Gaming Software Limbo" Computer Power User Magazine p 81 Vol. 6 issue 4, April 2006.

In this article, Mr. Loshin is speaking about old roms for MAME and MESS that publishers abandon.  I will quote from the article, "Unlike free/open-source software, abandonware has no legal standing; it's a matter of economics that games publishers abandon their older games rather than maintain a backlist of titles like book publishers do.  When a game's owner does assert copyright and request an old game be taken down (referring to any website), the gamers must comply."

I would definitely put Fusion 40 ROMs in the abandonware category.

As for the Fusion Forty itself,  the V 3.4 Plug’N Go ROMs will allow the Fusion 40 to boot amiga 3.1 os roms , but will these rom’s allow the use of AmigaOS 3.5 or 3.9?   I remember there is some issue with the 68040.library in AmigaOS 3.1 and the Fusion Forty.

Does anyone have experience getting 3.5 or 3.9 working with the Fusion Forty?  I am interested as I have an A2000 with Fusion Forty with 32 megs of ram, a Picasso II+ and an hardcard.