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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 15, 2003, 09:47:38 PM »
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that_punk_guy wrote:
How about a multi-track hard-disk recorder?

Something like this?  :-)

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2003, 02:15:21 AM »
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Kronos wrote:
/me wonders how often he has to hear the word "sandboxed"
completly out of context .......

A 68k programm is an 68k programm and therefore it has now
idea on what kind (or if on any at all) of emulation it runs.

The only think that "not sandboexed" means is that both
protected and non-protected apps run on the same kernel in the
same mem-space nothing more. Also means that it is allways
possible for an unprotected app to damage the kernel.

Preventing that is the MAIN reason for using a sandox.


IF Hyperion duplicated MS’s “Windows On Windows” method (NT edition) but for Amiga’s API (e.g.. Amiga on Amiga), this would be satisfactory in my view.
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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2003, 04:50:11 AM »
How about an emulation for A1 os4 like playstation 2 emulator or ps1 these would be cool to have running would turn a few heads as well
 

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2003, 05:18:38 AM »
Tafka, I could really use a music notation and MIDI program, one with excellent graphical support for modern notation.  Great playback, sound editing, and a tracker interface would be killer, too.  I dream of a day when I can take my composing back to my Miggy.

Not sure if that qualifies as small to medium, but I'd he happy to help out on such a project though I haven't programmed for the Amiga in years and am a bit rusty.

Otherwise, a decent yet simple-to-use window-and-toolbar-based text editor.

Kronos, why'd you have to show up and start pissing on everyone?  Some of us are here because we enjoy the platform.
 

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2003, 06:27:20 AM »
/me is pissing on whom ??????


Just because I suggest looking forward (and writing new SW) instead
of backwards (and writing an AA-emu) makes me pissing on someone ?


Or is it because I corrected some urban myths about the benefits of
a "non-sandboxed" emu/OS ????


Oh well I can live with that .....

Back to the topic:
@tafka
What you should do really depends on the amount of time you are
able to invest. If you got really lots of it you should go for the big
"killer-app" like an audio or GFX programm.

If your time is limited you should look on free SW for a starting
point. For example, the Amiga-port of XFig called AmiFig has been
dicontinued some times ago and is available for free. Maybe you could
get the sources from the author. Or look at the masses of X11/KDE/GTK-SW
and choose one of those.

If you only got very little time and want fast results, port little
cli-tools and similar from Linux, write commodity-style-SW or
drivers for "odd" HW.

Lots of tasks outthere that don't require to beat a dead horse (OCS/AGA).



1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2003, 06:27:25 AM »
"I've just thought of one that would be useful to me. A proper transparent (non-samba) network layer for communicating with Windows across a LAN.

So that the drives on the Amiga are available in network neighborhood (sic) and the PC is available as a device on the Amiga."

That's the best one of all. It would allow any Amiga owner (68k or PPC) to swap files with Windows or Linux boxen.

And the advantage is that you have some code to start with. All you have to do is tweak it to make it user-friendly (it's horrible at the moment).

tony
 

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2003, 07:28:03 AM »
KA4OS4 (killer app for OS4):
I guess on the start there should be a good dev env to help development, this should be the first killer App

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2003, 09:23:35 AM »
Forget VirtualDub, the Amiga needs a port or something like VirtualDubMod. Lots more functionality and format support.
 

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2003, 09:32:02 AM »
Kronos

Not a fan of the idea of being able to play classic Amiga games on OS 4?

I personally can't wait to play Zool in a window.

 

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2003, 12:07:41 PM »
@JoNty

And now guess where Zool would run better :

a) UAE-setup with "match A500-speed" (or was it an AGA-game ?).

b) Under ExecSG (did it allow multitasing ?) on Petunia ( = >060)
with a hacked_in_place chipset-emu.

My bets are 100:1 on a  :-D

Said the guy who can't wait for support of the Carweazle_3
Joystick-ports in UAE so he can finally play Lotus_I/II,
R-Type,Turrican, Wings of Death .......  ;-)
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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2003, 12:47:29 PM »
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tonyw wrote:
"I've just thought of one that would be useful to me. A proper transparent (non-samba) network layer for communicating with Windows across a LAN.

So that the drives on the Amiga are available in network neighborhood (sic) and the PC is available as a device on the Amiga."

That's the best one of all. It would allow any Amiga owner (68k or PPC) to swap files with Windows or Linux boxen.

And the advantage is that you have some code to start with. All you have to do is tweak it to make it user-friendly (it's horrible at the moment).

tony



I aint 100% sure but I seem to recall that Tickly said that he has been tinkering with some software to do just that for some time now (at least I think it was tickly). Think I read that on ann.

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2003, 12:49:12 PM »
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Hehe, the effort some people go to for a joke!


It was just a lazzy sunday afternoon ;-)

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2003, 12:55:12 PM »
1) Paula sound chip emulator by using Altivec
2) Sound libraries by using Altivec (AHI for altivec)
3) Delfina emu for Altiv.... argh, enoug of this
4) IDE for GCC
5) AOS4 port of AACE    :-P  :-P  :-P
 

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2003, 02:12:58 PM »
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Tafka wrote:
Hi Guys,

I am itching to get my hands on an AmigaOne/OS4 to start developing for it but as I can no longer wait I thought I would start now.  Assuming reaction hasn't changed much, the source should be similar.

The only problem is, I don't know what!  :-D

So, does anyone have any ideas for small to medium apps that they would like to see on OS4.  I'll have a go at most things.


Maybe you could volinteer your effort to some of the open source projects already active in the amiga community, such as AWEB, or the GeekGadgets projects... There are many very usefuly project that are in need of constant help. And by the sounds of it, your not exactly a newbie a coding, so my bet is, you'd be of great help.

But if your hell bent on developing something by your self, maybe a port of Thunderbird (formaly pheonix [mozilla based browser]) and the thunderbird sister project email client based on mozilla also? Deffiniatly some key apps. But, i guess there could be more essential ones, since there are some web browsers and email clients.

Maybe developing audit/video codecs for audit/video players we already have?

Or GUIs for Command Line apps that dont have them, such as cvs (at least i dont think it has one)... WinCVS has a great interface, maybe something like that?
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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2003, 02:30:18 PM »
Some great ideas guys and thanks Mason for your offer of help.

Is OS4 going to have input and output datatypes?  If it does that may influence my decision slightly.
 

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Re: App for OS4
« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2003, 02:43:44 PM »
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Is OS4 going to have input and output datatypes?

The datatypes supplied with OS4 have been written by Oliver Roberts (WarpDatatypes author). Maybe contact him directly for information here
If your referring to codecs in general (for A/V stuff), you might want to contact Ben Hermans, who should be able to give you more details and/or the authors details.

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