SFS problems

[Gavilan]

Hi people: im having big troubles installing SFS to my Amiga.

This is the situation: i have an 20 GB HDD ready to be used on my Amiga.
My Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 1230 already has a 450 MB very old crappy disk, that is saying goodbye forever. I wanted to transfer all info and data, but into a SFS enviroment

What i did was,copy ALL my 450 MB into 20 GB, formatted following SFS installation guide.
I made 3 partitions. First partition 1 about 1.5 gig. Second partition is about 2.5 gig. And the third partition, when i reboot system is....gone!!!
Instead of getting a panic attack, i proceed and installed 3.9 (of course i have roms 3.1 on my machine).
After installation , 2 things happened:
1) i no longer have access to CD-rom. what could it be??
2) MY 3 partition is actually SEEN on the WB screen, but i get a message saying: HD3 is UNRECOGNIZABLE. If i try to format it, after 1% i get a "scsi.device bla bla bla ERROR". So i cant use it!!

I tought that using together 3.9 & SFS i would be able to get full use of a 20 GB hard disk

What am i doing wrong?
Cheers!

Sebastian

[AmigaMance]

2) MY 3 partition is actually SEEN on the WB screen, but i get a message saying: HD3 is UNRECOGNIZABLE. If i try to format it, after 1% i get a "scsi.device bla bla bla ERROR". So i cant use it!!

Try to quick format it. I assume that you are using a newer version of the scsi.device, right? If you don't you will only be able to use the first 4GB of your HD, and from what you describe the problems occurs after the 4GB limit.

[amigagr]

1) i no longer have access to CD-rom. what could it be??

probably the instalation of os3,9 keep the old cd driver for mounting a cdrom but because of scsi.device conflict it can't run properly. do you have any extra scsi or ide hardwear on the amiga? if not in the startup-sequence the setpatch must be configured like this:     C:SetPatch Quiet
if there is a cd driver in Devs directory check if it is configured to use scsi.device unit=1 and CacheCDFS from L: directory.


2) MY 3 partition is actually SEEN on the WB screen, but i get a message saying: HD3 is UNRECOGNIZABLE. If i try to format it, after 1% i get a "scsi.device bla bla bla ERROR". So i cant use it!!

I tought that using together 3.9 & SFS i would be able to get full use of a 20 GB hard disk



you can have full access to all these even with os3,1 with the use of nsdpatch and a patched version of FFS. anyway the combination os3,9 sfs works fine on both my amigas, i install it recently and i don't have ffs anymore on the rdb of my disks. i format the partitions in full mode with the os format, in 1200 ide and in 3000 scsi hard disks and there wasn't any problem. the defrag tool of sfs works fine too. maybe the problem is from scsi device, if so the solution is the same to both of your problems.

[Hyperspeed]

This tool might be handy:

ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/disk/misc/check4gb.lha

Just to be sure, better than wiping the start off your disk!

[Gavilan]

Of course i tried to do a quick format...but unfortunately..same result....

About the new scsi.device...where can i get it? i couldnt find it on Aminet...but i supposed that OS 3.9 and/or SFS had a newer scsi.device ....

Any more clues??

Thanks in advance

Sebastian

[Gavilan]

amije: i have a scsi module attached to my Blizzard 1230....but my CD rom SCSI is unsusable as well...

Regarding scsi.device.... i had the idea that using together SFS + OS3.9 would allow me to us larger drives without caring size...so thats why i wanted to use a "brand new" 20 GB in my Amiga....

So, i simple dont understand what i did wrong...
I copied ALL my 450MB hard drvie into the new 20GB drive. The 450 HD had 3.1 installed and working properly...

After i installed SFS and 3.9, i can see on the WB screen the third partition , but it reads what i said, i cant format it, either in quick or full format, without getting a "SCSI.ERROR" with a lot of numbers and commands i just dont understand...

So basically, shall i need to install a new scsi.device?
where could i get it?
where should i install it?

Thanks in advance & excuse me for all my mess here!!!I wanted to impress my girl, showing her my "new A1200 with OS 3.9"...but all i got was "babe, its late, lets go to bed..."


OHHHHHH: forgot to tell!! I have one of those Eyetech 4 buffered ide interface...but i think (not sure) that came with no software, so i didnt install any software on it...



Cheers

Sebastian
 :lol:  :lol:

[Hyperspeed]

One look at your broken A1200 with OS3.9 and all she could think of was luuurve!

:-D

[AmigaMance]

So basically, shall i need to install a new scsi.device?
where could i get it?
where should i install it?

I don't have expirience on these things but since nobody answered it, i'll give it a try.
 From what i know the updated scsi.device is part of the OS3.9 as a resident module. So, you probably use it already if you haven't set a "noromupdate" or "skipromupdates scsi.device" argument in the setpatch command. Write in a shell window "setpatch PI" to check this.

[Framiga]

Hi Gav

take a look at this SFS thread or with the Search function here, every thread "SFS+Thomas" related :-)

[rockape]

Hi,

Quote

"1) i no longer have access to CD-rom. what could it be??"

Ensure you have the ToolType in your CD DosDriver set correctly

eg: "1230scsi.device"  (CASE sensitive !!!)

eg: "Unit = 4 /* exec device unit */"  is the number set on the back of my CD ROM Drive. Yours might be different.

My settings

/***************************************************************/
/*  CacheCDFS mountlist entry © 2000 Amiga Inc.                */
/***************************************************************/
       FileSystem     = L:CacheCDFS /* The name of the game */
       Device         = "squirrelscsi.device" /* Name of exec device driver */
       Unit           = 3 /* exec device unit */
       Flags          = 0 /* OpenDevice flags */
       BlocksPerTrack = 351000 /* Unused */
       BlockSize      = 2048 /* True, but unused */
       Mask           = 0x7ffffffe /* Memory mask for direct read */
       MaxTransfer    = 0x1000000 /* Maximum amount of bytes for direct read */
       Reserved       = 0 /* Unused */
       Interleave     = 0 /* Unused */
       LowCyl         = 0 /* Unused */
       HighCyl        = 0 /* Unused */
       Surfaces       = 1 /* Unused */
       Buffers        = 500 /* Number of cache lines */
       BufMemType     = 5 /* MEMF_PUBLIC */
       BootPri        = 2 /* Boot priority for MountCD */
       GlobVec        = -1 /* Do not change! */
       Mount          = 1 /* Mount it immediately */
       Priority       = 10 /* Priority of FileSystem task */
       DosType        = 0x43443031 /* Currently unused */
       StackSize      = 3000 /* Minimum stack required is 3000! */
       Control        = "MD=0 LC=1 DC=8 L LV AL LFC=1 S NC AUDIO=Utilities/PlayCD"
   /* The Control field is for special adjustments */
   /* L/S convert all file/volume names to lowercase */
   /* LV/S convert volume names to lowercase */
   /* AL/S Auto-Lower converts only non-Amiga CDs */
   /* LFC/N start converting at this character */
   /* LC/N/A number of blocks per cache line */
   /* DC/N/A number of cache lines for the data cache */
   /* MD/N/A number of blocks, when starting direct read, not using */
   /* the cache. 0 will be a reasonable default (LC*DC+1) */
   /* S/S Do SCSI direct commands, no Trackdisk like commands! */
   /* NC/S Do NOT use TD_ADDCHANGEINT, poll for DiskChange! */
   /* M/S Issue a TD_MOTOR (OFF) command after read */


Regards, Michael

aka rockape

[vk3heg]

Framiga wrote:
Hi Gav

take a look at this SFS thread or with the Search function here, every thread "SFS+Thomas" related :-)

Great information in that thread (have book marked it)..

I have a question about large drives. I have a GVP Impact Series II A500-HD+ with 3.12s/3.2a roms (acording to the little sticker) and would like to get a 8gig segate drive going with it. I have tryed to use this drive, but the gvp fastprep software thinks that the drive is 244mb.

Will using the SFS file system get past this or do I need to find someone with newer roms first? (anyone have newer version roms?)

Btw: it's been many years since I last used my ami... I've only just come back in the past few weeks, after upgrading the rom/os to 3.1

Edit: That should be a 4gig hd

[Framiga]

I have no experience about that GVP controller but you can find some useful links, at HERE (Ralph Babel link)  

[Thomas]

I have tryed to use this drive, but the gvp fastprep software thinks that the drive is 244mb.

This is probably a fault of the FastPrep software not being able to handle more than 4GB.

Will using the SFS file system get past this or do I need to find someone with newer roms first? (anyone have newer version roms?)

No, it won't. SFS only jumps in after the drive has been partitioned.

I don't know if the FastPrep software does anything special to the drive. You should try if you could use on of the standard prep programs like HDToolBox (version 3.5 or 3.9 preferred) or HDInstTool.

Bye,
Thomas

[Framiga]

btw . . SFS 1.252 68K is available at

SFS HomePage

1.252 (7.1.2006)
- m68k: Fixed an alignment bug in the 64 bit packet support.
- Added some checks in ACTION_SEEK, ACTION_CHANGE_FILE_POSITION64,
  ACTION_SET_FILE_SIZE, ACTION_CHANGE_FILE_SIZE64, ACTIION_READ and
  ACTION_WRITE to make sure you can't create/access files > 4 GB - 2
  bytes.

EDIT- has anyone already installed it?

[amigagr]

i've been confused with all this
you didn't say about the scsi module and the extra ide interface from the start...
if you don't use the ide buffer inderface remove it or install the softwear, i think that it works with idefix. the cdrom is connected to the ide or scsi module? if it is on scsi you have to set the cd driver to 1230scsi.device. there is an upgrade to the 1230 scsi from phase5 too, version 8,something. i have use my scsi module only once to ''save'' the scsi hard disk of my a3000 and i had the problem that the amiga was booting only from the blizz scsi and couldn't even ''see'' the internal ide!!! and the problem was solved after a lot lot warm reboots so who knows what conflicts happening in the background... at your place i would remove all the extra hardwear, install the os 3.9 and putting it back in place one by one. finaly the scsi.device is ''in'' the file AmigaOSRomUpdate in directory Devs. you must install and the 2 boingbags to have all the latest updates of these files.

don't mess with tools like fastprep use only hdtoolbox, format from os3.9 and of course the tools of sfs if you need them.