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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« on: January 30, 2006, 04:06:10 AM »
Ok, Im about to install a Cyberstorm PPC into my Amiga 4000D I already have an IDE 4gig drive in it but once I have my Cyberstorm I will be using the SCSI and installing a 9gig drive.
I have a 4000Toaster Flyer system already running and I will be reinstalling it onto the SCSI drive. My main question is do I upgrade to OS3.5 or should I just leave it at 3.1
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2006, 04:08:50 AM »
for the life of me i can't understand why anyone wouldn't upgrade to 3.9
without any change to HW my system ran faster and better. period.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2006, 04:22:27 AM »
Ahh yes... Amiga OS 3.9...

Firstly I prefer the name WORKBENCH... secondly, you pay 50GBP to have your machine reset itself every time you switch it on, delay SCSI initialisation by 10 seconds, be incompatible with a lot of your favourite patches and tools, be an arse with your hardware and ooooh...

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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2006, 04:27:52 AM »
DITTO with OS 3.9... Can anyone say, "BOING?"  :-D
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2006, 05:28:16 AM »
AmigaOS 3.9 is a must have if you have any Amiga with a 68030+ and 4MB+ Fast.  Period.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2006, 05:41:15 AM »
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2006, 06:54:35 AM »
why? why?
if you have the hardware, install 0s3.9 . period. the updates are too crucial. unless you just play games.
and in the case of a ppc accel it is silly not to have 3.9...
 

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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2006, 09:11:55 AM »
I just moved from 3.9 back to good old trusty 3.1, was just to much stuff I didn't need. However if your reason for not liking 3.9 is that it reboots you should get blizkick which makes the romupdates resident. It's an excellent tool and will also give you KingCON if you boot without startup-sequence.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2006, 12:33:56 PM »
I have 3.9 installed mainly to use larger drives on machines with fast scsi controllers and at least a 68040, though this can be done on 3.1 w/ TD64.  On anything less than a 68040, 3.1 is fine and you can do everything 3.9 lets you do without bogging down.  This is especially true if you have a machine w/ 3.0 roms and don't want to upgrade, you can still get rtg, etc. w/o 3.9.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2006, 02:22:38 PM »
Upgrading to either OS3.5 or OS3.9 is a matter of choice.  Neither one in my opinion (and I know it goes against the grain of many here) is a significant upgrade from OS3.1 *because* most of what the two updated OS's offer is available as patches for WB3.1. (example CDFS, CDPlayer, MUI, BOOPSI, GADTOOLS, MPEG Player, updated libraries and datatypes, etc..).  While I do not entirely agree, it has been argued by many that both upgrades are really nothing more then a bundling of the updates for WB3.1 with a little "cleanup".  I have used both OS3.5 and OS3.9 and have always gone back to WB3.1 and don't miss anything from either upgrade.. but that is me.

If you must upgrade then please bypass OS3.5 completely and go with OS3.9 as it is much more stable and more of a "finished" product in my opinion.  I do agree that if you have an accelerated AMIGA (anything with an 060 or PPC) then upgrading to OS3.9 is a reasonable choice (although there are plenty of tools to let the '060 work just fine with WB3.1).

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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2006, 02:51:19 PM »
is there very much in 3.5 or 3.9 that cant be downloaded from aminet or elsewhere?  from what i understand amiga in a box has most of what 3.5 has for free for winuae and all of that can be downloaded seperately. hard drive tools are all available and so is the internet stuff.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2006, 03:06:32 PM »
Keep 3.1 for your Toaster/Flyer system as NewTek didn't officially support os versions beyond 3.1.  Although I had not run into any problems upgrading to 3.5 on my A3000Tower/Toaster system (before it died an unexplainable death), it would be IMHO, better to stay at 3.1

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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2006, 03:06:46 PM »
In my opinion, most if not all of what OS3.5 and OS3.9 has to offer can be downloaded / patched into WB3.1 if you look for it.  Some products were commercial and are likely in very short supply now as the developers no longer support AMIGA but I have yet to run into any situation on my AMIGA that required me to use OS3.9 because a similar items was not available for WB3.1.  Others might have a different experience.

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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2006, 03:35:50 PM »
Thanks for the info,

Decisions, decisions...I have OS 3.5 but just do not want to start having problems with rebooting and crashing of the system. OS 3.1 has always run smooth for me and I have never updated anything from the original install years ago.

I will just have to partition my new SCSI drive into smaller sections so I can use it with 3.1 as from what I remember 3.1 dosent see larger then about 800mb drives.
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